Why is everyone writing off Zhang Zhilei so soon?

sasto · Aug 19, 2022

CST80 said: ↑

Yeah, he found this.

Hrgovic vs. Cammarelle

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Hrgovic vs. Nistor

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....and Hrgovic vs. Omarov, wherever that's disappeared to.

Although he really should be focusing on this one.

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How did no one get cut in that Hrgovic vs Cammarelle mess? Granite foreheads on both of them.

Vegan Beast said: ↑

What do you guys think of betting on both fighters to get knocked down at 4/1?
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If I think back on fights where both getting knocked down seems likely, not sure 4/1 is enough compensation. Plus if Zhang gets KD first, he is old and huge. Hard to get back up and get revenge.

Serge said: ↑

Hrgovic was involved in some real tough fights in the WSB where he proved his chin, heart and toughness. He was very young but he ticked all those boxes.

Here's a post of mine regarding his chin

'People say Hrgovic has a good chin because he's never been down in sparring, amateur, semi-pro or pro or even been noticeably hurt. This is very rare for a HW or SHW who fought at the highest level in the amateurs and he also had 30 fights in the WSB

He fought at the highest level against many of the best amateurs in the world prior to turning over and we've seen him get cracked on the chin many times. He's also sparred absolutely murderous punchers like Wlad, The Bronze Dosser, David Haye and Daniel Dubois and gave them very good work and was never down against any of them.

"Filip is extremely talented"

"He showed in the past, through his Olympic record and his professional record. I have been sparring with him and he was really, really tough, even in my best days back then''

--Wlad Klitschko

He stopped Dubois, split Haye's eye open, and more than held his own against a 28-0, 28 y/o Bronze Dosser when he was like an 19 or 20 y/o amateur

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This doesn't mean Hrgovic has the best chin at HW but most of the world's best HWs and SHW amateurs and the world's current best HWs pros have been hurt, dropped, stopped or KO'd when they were amateurs.

AJ was dropped and stopped in the amateurs. Ditto for The Bronze Dosser. Ditto for Lennox Lewis. Ditto for Wlad. Ditto for Riddick Bowe. Ditto for Yoka. Ditto for Zhang. Ditto for Wallin. Ditto for Makhmudov. Ditto for Frazer Clarke. Ditto for Dychko. Ditto for Sirenko. Ditto for Joe Joyce. All dropped and stopped or KO'd.

Hrgovic fought fighters who stopped AJ, Joyce, Yoka, Makhmudov, Wallin, Zhang, and Clarke and sparred Wlad who knocked out The Bronze Dosser in the gym.

Among many others Hrgovic fought in the ams and WSB are Roberto Cammarelle, Joseph Parker, Mihai Nistor, Ivan Dychko, Tony Yoka, Sergey Kuzmin, Magomed Omarov, Lenier Pero, Jose Larduet, Yoandry Toirac, Ali Eren Demirezen, Sergey Kharitonov, Abdulkadir Abdullayev, Brandon Glanton, Viktar Zuyeu, Alexander Povernov, Vitaly Kudukhov.'

I actually think Zhang is one of the few HWs who could stop Hrgovic but Zhang has been dropped a bunch of times, and stopped. I'm sure AJ dropped him in their fight and Cammarelle dropped and stopped him.

Hrgovic was 21 here (no head gear)

Here's Cammarelle one punch sparking out Cuban Robert Alfonso on his face in HL reel fashion whilst

Here he is stopping a 28 y/o Zhang (with headgear)

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That atmosphere for the Camarelle fight in Italy was amazing for an amateur fight. Very cool to see.

Punchdrunk1 said: ↑

Zhang has quite a lot of 1st and second round KOs so he obviously likes to get stuck in early doors.

I've just had a dabble at hrgovic to be knocked down in the first at 40-1.
Seems like a good punt to me as fighters can easily take a flash knockdown in the first before they warm into the fight
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That's a nice one!

Murderers' Row said: ↑

They'll never do feck all. Never win a world title because they're simply not good enough. Which isn't the end of the world don't get me wrong but they're not ticket sellers nor do they have charisma.

Glorified gatekeepers at best.
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Better value for the boxing fan then. If Zhang could sell jeans or Hrgovic crack jokes at press conferences we'd be paying $60 for this fight

JunlongXiFan said: ↑

Johnny Fischer's best chance at picking up a title is finding one on the side of the road!
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If he spends enough time panhandling he just might!

Murderers' Row · Aug 20, 2022

CanadaBoxing2022 said: ↑

hrgovic has a very good chance at picking up a title at some point lol AJ and fury wont be aorund much longer and usyk probs neither.
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Looks a world beater out there tonight doesn't he? Jesus Christ.. Nothing fighter.

The G-Man · Aug 20, 2022

So soon?
Guy is pushing 40 was in his prime at the Beijing Olympics.

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