Why is Frazier ranked aboved Tyson?

Joe Frazier resume

Muhammad Ali
Doug Jones
George Chuvalo
Eddie Machen
Oscar Bonavena x2
Buster Mathis Sr
Jerry Quarry x2
Jimmy Ellis x2
Joe Bugner
Bob Foster

10 world title wins, 10 wins against top 10 ranked opposition.

Mike Tyson resume

Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Razor Ruddock x2
Trevor Berbick
Tony Tucker
Pinklon Thomas
Frank Bruno x2
Bonecrusher Smith
Tyrell Biggs
Tony Tubbs
Carl Williams
Bruce Seldon
Francois Botha
Alex Stewart

12 world title wins, 12 wins against top 10 ranked opposition.

Me personally i like Tyson's resume a bit more i think he has a bit more filler and he has an edge in world title wins. I also think Tyson was a bit more tested against varied styles for example Tyson beat movers, tall out boxers, KO artists. For me Frazier was a bit unproven against KO artist of his era like Mac Foster, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers.

Frazier has the best single win of course over Ali but i slightly prefer Tyson's slightly better achievements and overall more filler to his resume i also rate Tyson as the better H2H fighter.

 

I don't think Jones, Mathis, Machen or Foster were ranked in the top 10

 

I never said they were i listed them as notable wins based on name value.

 

Simple answer: because he’s better.

 

I have to say here that while the Heavyweight era in which Tyson participated was kind of weak compared to the 70s, Tyson fought the best there was available almost from scratch.

Take Sammy Scaff for example. he was not exactly Ringo Bonavena either but he had given Tim Witherspoon 4 tough rounds previously and many thought he'd be Tyson's first real test. By this time I knew Tyson was the next guy but i awaited this fight with interest because I thought that Scaff having gone 4 rounds with a former world champion, he could be the first one to take Tyson , a rookie basically, the distance. And James Tillis was a former title challenger. James Green had gone twelve with then-current champion Trevor Berbick who was not exactly a soft puncher.

Tyson was far superior to anyone else in the era until pressure, the night life and depression took their toll.

As far as him being better than Ali....definitely no. Foreman? probably no, Frazier..that is why we are here debating it lol so questionable.

 

Wrong again. Oscar was coming off a win over George chuvalo. Frazier was 11-0 with no notable wins.

 

Chuvalo was top 30 at the time. You sound like a twenty year old.

 

He was top 3 just the year prior.

 

Nice job brushing the gold medal under the carpet. Unbelievable.

 

And he was 2-3 in his last five heading into the Bonavena fight, with zero notable wins and zero close loses.

 

He was still ranked in the top 10 in 1966. Fact of the matter is Oscar is more dangerous than anyone tyson fought in his first 12 fights.

 

I have been a little busy. I will be disappearing completely from this site for about 2 weeks, starting on June 21st. I am getting married and we are going on our Honeymoon in Washington County, Maine, in a cabin on the ocean and in the woods. I will return here in early July.

 

I just bought the "Undisputed" boxing game for my computer. I cannot wait to try it. My controller is broken and I have one scheduled for delivery tomorrow some time.

 

Congratulations, Shay, enjoy your wedding and honeymoon.

 

Well, it's Ali