Why is Fury avoiding AJ?

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  1. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Exactly. People put Fury over Joshua, because of the manner he beat Wlad. But in my opinion, it weren't as impressive. The bodybuilder didn't need judges to get that win. He did it the mans way, dropped him 3 times and stopped him convincingly. I got no respect for Fury, he's a big man, but he's smoke and mirrors. He so reliant on height it's not funny. Give me a big puncher over a pure boxer any day. What's the use of it, when Fury can't even stay on his feet, when fighting at least a semi distance. Lol.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's easy to pick out examples of instances when there were big unification fights which where 50/50 true but you have to look deeper into each fight as to why that happened and also that there are plenty of examples when one champion made far less than the other.

    Frazier/Ali made 50/50 but look at how much they were making before their fight. Frazier was guaranteed 140K vs Foster, Ali was guaranteed 200K vs Bonavena.

    Ali/Foreman was 50/50 but again beforehand their purses were similar. Ali just made 850K vs Frazier, Foreman had just made 700K vs Norton.

    Holmes/Cooney was a odd situation. Cooney was the great white hope and neither of them could make anywhere near as much vs anyone else at the time. Holmes made 1.1 mill vs Snipes but both he and Cooney were guaranteed 10 mill each, 10 times what Holmes could normally make. If Wilder gave Joshua the opportunity to make 10 times as much as he normally does at 50/50 then he'd likely take the fight because that would be a staggering 9 figure payday. But in reality giving Wilder 50/50 would likely see Joshua not make that much more than he normally does, maybe the fight does very well and he makes double what he usually makes. Not exactly a great incentive unlike with Holmes/Cooney.

    Lewis/Holyfield 2 was 50/50 but only because if the controversy of the first fight after that fight many saw Lewis as the real deal not Holyfield. For the first fight Lewis accepted a 33% split when Lewis was making $4mill a fight for fighting guys like Briggs and Golota and Holyfield was making $5mill vs Bean. So even though Lewis wasn't making much less than Evander he accepted the far smaller end of the purse to make the fight happen, why, because he believed he would win and make a bigger cut in the rematch.

    Joshua/Wilder is a far different situation. Joshua is a far, far bigger draw and to offer Wilder 50% doesn't make Joshua several times what he normally would like when Holmes fought Cooney. Your examples simply do not take into account of the reality of the current situation.

    Did Bruno get 50/50 when he rematched Tyson for his WBC belt? Did Seldon get 50/50 when he fought Tyson? Because when we compare each fighters ability to draw Joshua is Tyson and Wilder is a Bruno or a Seldon not a Foreman or a Frazier or a Lewis.
     
  3. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    what am I missing here?