Why is Fury scared of AJ and Usyk, but not Wilder?

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 18, 2021
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    Because prior to the Fury fights the consensus from most boxing fans and pundits was Wilder sucked and was an over protected paper champion. It was only during the hype before and after the first Fury fight that Wilder's stock raised to the point some thought he was actually any good which was quickly proven to be false when Fury spanked him like an unruly child in the rematch.
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  3. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    Because both are better fighters than Wilder. Joshua has huge power and decent boxing ability, and is dangerous with more than just one punch, while Usyk is just a better fighter all round than anyone in the division including Fury.
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  4. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Wilder's a total one trick pony and can't box for s**t. I think he knows deep down Usyk's better than him and will beat him, with Joshua i think it was more to do with his ego not accepting Joshua getting the higher majority of the purse than actually ducking him.
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  5. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    Wilder massive power, average boxer. Limited defense, no inside game and can't fight off the back foot. If you can stand up to Wilder's power he has nothing else to offer. Fury was always the better boxer. Turns out he was also the tougher of the two.

    AJ can box, had good power of his own and good fundamentals. Stamina is a concern but he would make Fury think twice. Putting Joshua on the back foot won't be as easy as doing it to Wilder.

    Usyk, fast, agile, brilliant skills, and has proved he can take a dig at heavy. A nightmare for a slowing Fury....

    No one wants to see Fury Wilder 4 - the 3rd one being a good scrap is a fluke. Fury should be 3 zip v Wilder.
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    The fact that he was prepared to face The Dosser x 3 in his backyard, x 4 if he could have his way, and even did so when he was an inactive shell of himself who hadn't fought anyone with a pulse in three years, but categorically refuses to face Usyk even once in his own backyard where everything is stacked heavily in his favour and his chances of winning via crook or hook are that much higher tells you everything you need to know about how highly he rated The Dosser's skill set.

    You think the fact The Dosser had been outboxed by D levels who can't box numerous times and that he's a very low skill uncoordinated one-trick pony who'd been spoon-fed trash throughout his entire career escaped Belly's attention? :lol:
  7. Moe Balbaghe

    Moe Balbaghe New Member Full Member

    Sep 19, 2021
    Usyk is low reward in a monetary sense, high reward in a credibility sense, but high risk in an outcome sense

    Credibility doesn't pay the bills, he won't gain as much as he wants financially out of the fight, and there's a high risk he loses his legacy. For those reasons he doesn't want to make the fight happen

    We as fans will be robbed of a generational fight if we don't see these two go at it. Two of the most technically gifted heavyweights in a long time, both undefeated. I had hoped legacy would be put at the forefront of this one, as fans we endure a load of sh*te with fight collapses, and I had hoped the powers that be would recognise the significance of this fight and make it happen

    I guess I was wrong!
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 18, 2019
    Nailed it
  9. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 18, 2019
    Also nailed it
  10. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    Fury has a belt now - he has something to lose.

    He didn't when he first signed to fight Wilder.
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  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

    Aug 31, 2015
    Both Usyk and AJ can box, Wilder never could. Fury only fights plodders because he know his skills will pay the bills.

    I can see him facing Joyce because he will be able to confortably outbox him because he is far superior.

    Fury will never fight anyone who he will have to really work hard against.

    Personally I'm so dissapointed this fight didn't go ahead...
  12. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 20, 2020
    I don't think Fury is afraid of Usyk perse - what he is afraid of is the narrative that Fury is an ATG master boxer, that is freakish fast and skilled for a heavyweight will lie in tatters because Usyk is a stylistic worst case match up - a high-iq, high workrate southpaw, with masterful skills and who hasn't ever looked close to being hurt or stopped as a pro.

    Usyk is a hard night's work for any heavy in history, and Fury knows that if he is not at 110% best, he could come unstuck in potentially humbling fashion.
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  13. Pierre_Coetzer

    Pierre_Coetzer Member Full Member

    Sep 28, 2022
    Was mentioned in the Geordie video...

    But also don't think Fury is scared.... There is just easier money out there and if he loses ... his paydays disappear... He is not about legacy, and cant believe what he says... He just cares about money
  14. smoking mirrors

    smoking mirrors Member Full Member

    Jan 14, 2023
    Fury lives off his rep as a master boxer. win or lose, Usyk will make him look like sh*t. look how a fairly average but mobile contender like Wallin gave him fits. he prefers plodders with the turning circle of a forklift to do his fake slick skills against.
  15. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    I don't know if Fury is scared of Usyk, Usyk is just not a big draw PPV wise. Fury may not care about being undisputed and just wants a big stage and a big pay day, which is sad.

    I think we'll likely see AJ vs Fury, as this is the biggest cash cow in boxing right now.