Why is Haye getting so much hate over the Klit negotiations?

Haye is a fraud....by the way...news flash

 

Lol....Got Damn, dude got checked...good post bro.

 

Don't be so dumb.

When I say it's been done to death it's because I have been the one debating it. Plus, I have already called Haye on some of his moves but if you want to make some broad, sweeping generalisation because you think I'm a Haye fan rather than a fan of the sport, then it makes you look like a moron.

Typical idiotic response.

 

How do YOU know what Booth was or wasn't asking for? You speak for him now????

You can repeat the underlined all you want, it doesn't make it true. Negotiations are NOT public. Results of negotiations may be reported, but the actual meetings are NOT. Professional entities do not negotiate publicly.

Anyway what needs to be negotiated at this point? Nothing! All David has to do is sign the deal left on the table by Klitschko. At this point, he's not going to improve his position any further, he can only watch it go down.

 

Whether a camp chooses to go public or not is up to them. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. However, literally demanding for the deal to be done in private? It's unprecedented.

What the Klitschko's demand with any opponent, is private negotiations. That's a fact which has been mentioned many times. What's the opposite of that in boxing terms? Public, where guys can, if they chose, go to the press and tell them details of the negotiating issues. I don't know whether Booth wanted everything to be out in the open or not, but his demand for it to be in the public, was at the very least, the exact same thing which happens 99% of the time in boxing. All negotiations are public.

As far as private negotiations go, nobody else routinely does it. Like I said, the only other case that I'm aware of, was Mayweather/Pacquiao which was specifically private because too many details were released by the press. However, the negotiations for Mayweather/Pacquiao were standard and it's to be expected that whenever a big fight comes along, we, as fans, get to hear specific details.

Here's a genuine question to anyone who defends this: Why would the Klitschko's set a precedent for asking for private negotiations? You can go back to the turn of the century with guys like Jack Johnson to find out specific details about contracts, or later with Ali, Tyson, Leonard and so on. Why do the Klitschko's demand the negotiations be private, when in the history of boxing, there are very few cases of that happening?

And please don't say that negotiations are private because they absolutely are not.

 

Thats funny because i dont remember haye not talking to the press EVER where is your facts that they ban people talking to the press the only one i have ever heard of is chisora and again did he talk to the press. point is no the mayweather pacqiao do you have any proof that any of those were public negotiations or are you making **** up. ?

 

Haye only talked to the press and went into details after the negotiations had ended.

As for Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's obvious it was public. Go back and look at some articles and read the quotes. When promoters and managers go into specific details whilst the negotiating is still happening, that is public.

 

Ok jack now back to the real world, You have yet to name a fight which negotiations were open to the public and you just admited that you have no idea what exactly boothe meant yet are defending it :huh Now Haye Valuev were public? No Haye Ruiz.. no Haye Harrison.. No Haye Barrett.. no.. none of the negotiations were public i cannot think of any which were how many contracts from fights have you seen they are never public, things get released to the public like the split things like that but details are not negotiated in the open. :deal

 

Haye is a proven liar and a contract breaker!

 

because he is a pretentious *****.

 

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Haye did not only talk after negotiations were over thats a load of crap.
NO it was not some things of the contract were leaked to the press it was not public and for that matter what happened the fight blew up partly because of all the **** what was leaked when they negotiated the second time it was without hardly anything leaked to the press for a reason and again they were not truly public none ever are to be public would be all details of the contract open to the public not parts which were chosen or leaked.

 

Jack doesn't comprehend what public negotiations mean. Some people are just slow that way.

 

Are you stupid or something? I listed several fights earlier which were open to the public.

And Haye/Valuev was public, yes. We knew the details of the negotiations during the time they were happening. As for Haye/Harrison and Haye/Barrett, I don't know what details came out, honestly. The one thing I do know though, is that it wasn't written in the contract that it should be private.

Your definition of public negotiations is completely different to mine. You're assuming that the press get to read every contract, right? I'm not. I think that if a promoters wants to give out details, that's public but it's essentially their choice. Private is the opposite of that, obviously, where a fighter is banned from talking to the press.

Let's ignore the public/private thing because our definition varies and keep it limited to this: Which other promoters throughout the history of boxing, have demanded that any details should not be realeased to the press? Specifically, which fights were negotiated privately because one side threatened to sue the other, if any details were released?

 

There has never, in the history of boxing, been a fight where every specific detail was given to the press. The idea that public negotiations are where the press are privy to absolutely everything is ridiculous because that's never happened.

What Booth was most likely asking for when he asked for it to be public, was in reality "not private". The Klitschko contracts are always private and Booth obviously wanted freedom to talk to the press, which the Klitschko's wouldn't allow.

But, yeah, if you seriously think public negotiations means that every single thing gets released to the press, you're way off the mark. Public negotiations in boxing terms, are when a promoter or fighter can talk to the press if they choose to.