Why is Haye the early (heavy) betting favorite over Chisora?

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  1. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye has the handspeed and the power to wipe out anyone that's hittable, and Chisora can be hit. I think it's that simple.

    I think Haye is really the goods. Just because Wladimir backed him up and kept him running for 12 rounds doesn't mean anyone can do it. Chisora will come on strong, no doubt, but he'll get hurt and floored by the same mean-assed rights that devastated Ruiz and others.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    What power?? :? When did he ever prove his power at heavyweight against a credible opponent?
     
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  3. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye already won the first fight by TKO1. It might take him a few more rounds than that without the bottle in his hand though.
     
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  4. perspicacity

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    I'm of the opinion Haye would stop Fury handily, although I understand Delboy may not have been in shape for that fight, regardless, No Surrender had Fury on ***** street whilst Haye rocked SNV to his boots and did stop those others. :conf
     
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  5. king khan

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    According to the ref from Mcloskey/Corley, Haye would have a TKO12 win over Valuev :)

    Lol, nah, I agree. . . But those odds aren't that wide. . . That is basically like Haye is a 2:1 favorite, and CHisora is a 2:1 'dog, yes?

    I would think the odds should be about even, or maybe have Haye @ -130, and Chisora at +125 or something.
     
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  6. Foreman Hook

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    Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
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  7. Relentless

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    Hayemaker will KO Gsora then watcha gone say IB?
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

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    I'll say it's a shame such a proud warrior agreed to take a dive, because that's the only way that happens. :yep
     
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  9. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would call Ruiz a credible opponent. Plus, guys who have fought Haye -- and who know their way around the block -- say he can really crack.
     
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  10. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it's mainly that people don't trust Chisora's training habits, and mental state.
     
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  11. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Disagree with you here IB, Haye is just a better fighter, odds not that bad.
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Name a Haye HW performance as great as Chisora's efforts against Helenius or Vitali.
     
    IntentionalButt, May 11, 2012
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  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    So your'e opinion is that if Helenius ever laces em up again, and on the off chance that Haye was in the mood for suicide, that Robbe Helenius would go forward with the fight against an elite HW having torn his rotator cuff in training camp.
    Cuz seriously......that's the only way ANY HW in the world not named Klitschklo is gonna ever beat Robbe Helenius.:huh
     
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  14. Bathory

    Bathory Active Member Full Member

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    I always favor Haye until he proves me wrong, but sadly the show against Wlad was weak.
     
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  15. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post. Seems an unfocused or overconfident Chisora can be had as evidenced in the Fury fight. And how many warnings for kissing Haye just before he knocks him down with the ref give before deducting points or DQing him. :think
     
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