Why is Hearns rated on ATG list that DLH is absent from?

wait till he retire for good, a 10 year after ppl will realize.

 

There's a big difference between a 1997 version of Pernell Whitaker and a 1980 version of Ray Leonard.

 

Maybe because they aren't sure whether DLH is retired yet or not.

 

Forrest is a *****. He lost to Mayorga twice, and in the first one he was KTFO. Mayorga shut him up completely. Not mentioning Forrest robbed Quartey.

 

His chin wasn't awful. He just had a tendency at times to not bother about protecting it - big mistake when fighting top level, powerful guys. He was destroying Barkley until he got caught.

Look - Leonard stopped Hearns in what, the 14th round?

Oscar looks ****ed after 8 rounds. Can you imagine how different his career would have been if he had 7 more rounds after that?

Hearns doesn't get looked at with rose coloured glassed IMO. In fact, this chin **** gets blown out of all proportion.

Hearns with a brain is a damn near unstoppable force at 154. He got drawn into fighting not boxing. But that's what made him even more exciting.

ODLH is/was an excellent fighter. But one that really never dominated a division, and got fed chumps for title fights (eg Mayorga).

Hearns never had that. He tried to unify. He took on the best he could. He showed just how good he was by going from being a killer at 147 - to winning a LHW title by boxing.

You can say that lightweight to middle (ODLH had 2 fights at middle, and really, lost them both), is the same as 147 to 175 - but my arse it is.

LHW's bang a lot harder than middleweights. And Hearns actually won legit world titles at LHW.

 

Oscar won the Trinidad fight clear as day. Should have beaten Mosley the 2nd fight IMO. Still beat Sturm, although it was much closer then anticipated. Whitaker was debatable. he has been surrounded by contraversial decisions his entire career, but has proved time and time again, that he can hang with the best, and be extremely competitive, winning some and losing some.

 

Look...We can say all we want about DLH...The guy has an amazing resume'...Even with those losses....Some,if not most,were very controversial.He lost to Whitaker IMO...lost X2 to Mosley(2nd was very close)...He still beat Chavez(albeit old),Trinidad(IMO),Ruelas,Vargas,Mayorga,Hernandez,Quartey etc...The fact that he went into these fights to begin with,is a huge thing for his legacy...an ATG for sure...

However,what it always comes down to for me,is..could DLH beat Hearns at any weight from 147 onwards?And the answer is hell no.Tommy was all wrong for Oscar....Technically or otherwise....And that's why I put Tommy(one of my all-time favourite BTW) ahead of DLH.

Oscar's not too far behind tho'.I say Tommy is a top 30,and DLH somewhere in the top 50.

Say what you...Oscar(and I hate the sucker) has earned his laurels.Period.

 

duran is regarded as a pound 4 pound top 10 pernell as good as he was was never consistent when he got heavier.

and duran beat barkley for the middlewieght title and gave and was still winning fights and got a shot against joppy for the wba title almost 14 years later!!! he wasnt prime but he was far from done and finished with boxing.

pernell was shot beyond all belif. he was losing to hurtardo until he started throwing left after left (which at last caught him in the later rounds and made a highlight reel footage of a ko)

 

DLH should have lost to Whitaker. Where Hearns knocked Duran out early.

I'd say on that basis (with all other things considered equal) Hearns should be ranked a bit higher than DLH.

 

It's as simple as this..................

When Oscar Delahoya fights you don't say or think, this is one of the greatest fighters of ALL TIME, you just don't...

He's kinda like Sugar Ray in that he manipulates things because of his BEHIND THE SCENES POWER........

1. Picked on Mosley moving up from 135 and LOST(2):roll:
2. Ran from Tito for 3 rounds although ahead (ATG's don't do that):rofl
3. "VERY" questionable body shot against Hopkins (ATG's don't do that)
Lost to Floyd:hey

Beating a VERY SHOT Chavez and a SHOT Pernell Whitaker isn't going to get it

SEE some guys on here aren't old enough to remember the circumstances in which DLH fought these guys, and You my friend are trying to use these names for historical significance.....:fire

DLH is NOT an ATG and would lose to MOST of his contemporaries around his weight.......:deal

 

this is another example of a floyd boy posting with so many emoticons like i was talking about.

 

This thread makes me want to punch my screen. Debating whether Hearns should be rated lower than DLH or not only makes the ******ed argument seem more valid to people. DLH is not in Hearns' league. Hearns is one of the top 20 greatest fighters ever in my opinion and DLH is at the bottom 20 of the top 100 at best.

Jack Prescott should have came in here and made this into a Oscar hate joke thread before this turned into a serious discussion.

 

dlh will be appreciated when he retires and we look back and say "you know, that pretty boy could fight" , alot of fighters dont get respect till they retire