Why is Hearns rated on ATG list that DLH is absent from?

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Really? Most overrated in history?

    You.....are........delusional :good

    I'll just skip the resume argument, because if you have to be educated on the resume of Oscar maybe you should just stay as a creeper here and refrain from taking part in the discussions. He has been competitive and in position to win every single fight he's been in....except against one of the greatest middleweights of all time, who is now the ring champ at LT HEAVY. He's never been outclassed in the ring, arguably won Shane II, Tito and Floyd :hey .....which brings me to my next point, even in the twilight of his career fighting part time, he still took the P4P best to the brink of defeat.

    Its ok though, he is 0-5 against top comp right :rofl :patsch :barf His fights with Chavez don't count, Vargas?, Quartey? Whitaker? Shall I go on......
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns is an ATG but he's been long retired.......If you would have asked experts and fans back when he was still an active fighter (I mean really an active fighter) most wouldn't have given him this highly regarded "Title" of ATG. DLH will be considered an ATG by most historians, experts and fans when he's called it a career. Most boxers aren't fully appreciated until they leave the sport they've given almost everything too.
     
  3. bigtime-skills

    bigtime-skills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ATGs aren't merely competitive.....There's ALWAYS an excuse when Oscar fights and loses or some kinda cloud and his fans are the worst..

    I would NEVER endorse a fighter who avoids contact in the final 3rd of a fight:rofl

    And YES, there are 5 fights in which he fought the best of the best and he lost ALL of them (Tito, SSM(2), Hopkins, and FMJr).......

    DLH got more excuses than a ***** going to jail...
    DLH's best wins of the past 5 years are against 2 guys that Tito "conveniently" GUTTED a fight or 2 before (Vargas and Mayorga), YET you DLH clowns still look at him as a major player.....Pathetic
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL! The fish nets will never be lived down...but his legacy will be well in tact. His ring accomplishments are cemented and he'll be consided an All time great....with a sketchy past time of wearing womens clothing unfortunately. That is one tough ass drag queen though.
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad and Mosely aren't ATGs?
     
  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oscar only fought three times @ 140.

    He can be top 10 in terms of head-to-head mythical matchups, but he's not top 10 in achievements there, which is what matters more. He didn't spend enough time there.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I posted a response to this....but for some reason it didn't post. My internet is ****ing up I gues.

    But I thoroughly rebutted every one of your points, ridiculed you to no end and proved not only am I more knowledgeable but logical as well :good So
     
  8. kaygb

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    BeareofDawg .........

    "Its ok though, he is 0-5 against top comp right His fights with Chavez don't count, Vargas?, Quartey? Whitaker? Shall I go on......

    Again you are lost in Oscarsexual land. Chavez was past his prime. Vargas had been knocked down 5 times and sent to the hospital twice overnight he had been beaten up so bad in the 3 fights Vargas had before he fought Oscar. Think Oscar picked him at the right time :lol: :lol: Quartey had not fought in 17 months when Oscar chose him to fight. He was semi-retired and had no tune-up before he fought Oscar. Think Oscar chose to fight him at the right time :lol: :lol: Whitaker looked terrible in his two fights before Oscar chose to fight him. Hell Hurtado beat the hell out of Whitiker befor Pernell caught him in the 11th. He was way past his prime and it showed in those two previous fights. Think Oscar chose to fight him at the right time :lol: :lol:
    Ding dong schools out. :smoke

    Damn you're easy.
     
  9. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    :lol: :lol: damn you're stupid, if bewareofdawg replies to this post he is also an idiot.

    :hi: :yep :hey :rofl :nut :patsch :think :twisted: :fire :nono :thumbsup :deal :good :smoke :smoke :smoke
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, decisions are never wrong in this sport. The great judges that gaves Whitaker-Chavez, Golota-Ruiz, etc have never proven to be incorrect:lol:

    Call me what you like Jackie, but I laid out the challenge and you backed out like a *****. And for the record, I dislike DLH. Unlike you however, I have the actual ability to reason and look past personal distastes. It's why I am even dealing with a laughable poster like yourself.
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Vargas? Who cares how he did in his fights leading up? And who gives a **** when Oscar and why Oscar picked him? You are judging the Vargas in the HOya fight, by looking at Vargas in other fights. What you should do is watch the Delahoya/Vargas fight and then watch the Tito/Vargas fight, and then the Wright/Vargas fight and then the Quartey/Vargas fight and then some other Vargas fights. Then you come back here and give me specifics of Vargas's decline. What it was about him that was worse or deteriorated in the Hoya fight. I don't see any. I actually see a stronger fighter, just as fast, just as/if not more aggressive. But wait, he didn't do good in his fights leading up????? :patsch Ever think he wasn't motivated for those, he had just suffered a devastating defeat. Maybe he needed this one challenge to regain composure and motivation to train. Or maybe for this fight only, he got on the juice? It doesn't change how he fought Oscar and the caliber of opponent Oscar had to face. So you go do your homework and get back to me :good watch his reflexes, speed, power, footwork, aggression, stamina.....tell me what it is :deal
     
  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Latinas to a 50 Cent concert??? :huh Like you should talk :lol: In my word association thread you responded 20 ****ing times.....every time about Oscar :rofl :rofl :admin

    Keep it up! I'll start 25 threads about Golden Boy in a span of 10 minutes, you'll be panting and wheezing frantically jumping from thread to thread with your tongue hanging out drooling all over keyboard :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want to be on my ass? Sick Jackie, sick.

    Challenge was simple. You declined because you know the outcome. Claiming that every professional writer that scored the fight for De La Hoya likes him is a cop out, especially when they scored against him in other close fights (Like Mosley, Whitaker, etc). So your theory, as usual, doesn't hold water.
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Idiot. That doesn't answer my question.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    So round 2 of Lewis/McCall I is evidence that Lewis was already in "decline" as a fighter according to your logic? :good