Why is Hearns rated on ATG list that DLH is absent from?

BewareofDawg .........

"Ever think he wasn't motivated for those, he had just suffered a devastating defeat. Maybe he needed this one challenge to regain composure and motivation to train. Or maybe for this fight only, he got on the juice? It doesn't change how he fought Oscar and the caliber of opponent Oscar had to face. So you go do your homework and get back to me watch his reflexes, speed, power, footwork, aggression, stamina.....tell me what it is"


Maybe maybe, maybe ...... not enough Beware. The whole point here is Oscar said he would never ever fight Nando. He would never give him that payday. But after being destoyed by Trinidad he proved aftert that fight he was never
that good again. "Reflexes, speed, power, footwork, stamina .... who the hell are you refering to. Not Fernando that's for sure. Twice overnight in the hospital he was beaten up so bad then Oscar stands up and says in that ***gy voice "I will fight Vargas."
I wonder what made him change his mind. By the way I have stated over and over Oscar is 0 and 5 against the very best of his era. How the hell can you put Vargas as one of the elite? Give it up Beware. You always lose.

 

You are badly missing something here dude. I concede on the point that Oscar probably gave him the fight thinking he was damaged and a beaten fighter, he might of thought he would have an easy time with him. Ok. :good

My point: He was wrong. He fought a Vargas that was just as sharp, quick, stronger actually, and motivated as the one that tore through the ranks and won the title. Do you dispute that? Any decline in Vargas physically was obviously countered by the roids because I certainly didn't see it.

So your point is **** anyway, he beat an elite fighter....period.

 

Vargas's stamina didn't look good against De La Hoya. He got tired rather quickly. Oscar said he noticed that Nando was gassed by round 7 or so.

That was pretty different from the Vargas who showed remarkable stamina and workrate against Quartey and Wright.

 

I like DLH, i do. Hes a solid fighter and seems like a great guy. But comparing him to Hearns is just silly.

 

Vargas wasn't shot when Osar beat him. Nando was still a very good fighter in 2002.

He just wasn't quite what he was before.

 

no matter how you spin it the Vargas that fought Oscar was not the same vargas before the beatings he took. That Trinidad fight took away some of his talent. Being beaten up so bad you go to the hospital twice overnight is a sure sign you are not the fighter you were. That's why the Golden Fishnet decided to fight Vargas. Typical move by Oscar. Fighting a fighter on the way down. He's done that plenty in his career. That's one of the main reasons his ATG ranking is in question.

 

Thanks for playing :good

 

Watch the 9th....he still looks pretty fresh :good

 

That was his last gasp. Then he got tired again.

He was fatigued in the previous 2-3 rounds.

On the other hand, in previous fights, Vargas showed remarkable stamina and workrate.

Which is strange, because Stanazol is supposed to help increase you stamina.

 

Oscar was successful for 130 to 160. Hearns was successful from 147 to 175. Oscar beat a lot of contenders. Hearns beat a lot of contenders. Oscar lost big fights against PBF, Hopkins, etc. Hearns lost big fights against Leonard, Hagler, etc.

They are in the same league.

But Hearns ranks highers.

 

There is nothing untrue there.

The only thing is, you've left out some of Tommys wins over guys like Benitez, Duran etc. Those guys weren't contenders - they were excellent champions.

I would question Oscar being as successful at 160 as Tommy was at 175.
Hearns beat the undefeated Virgil Hill. He won a legit belt there. Oscar was gifted the WBOgus belt. That belt doesn't count IMO. It's a lower tier belt. Hearns only had the WBA or WBC.

ODLH won a very contentious decision against Sturm, and rolled over V Hopkins. No success there at all.

ODLH now fights infrequently for paydays. Hearns fought consistently because he was a fighter.

There's a huge difference between the 2 in my eyes.

 

If I could choose which career I'd rather have??

I'd take Hearns. You can say DLH ha a better chin, but Hearns had better height, reach, skill, POWER!!

 

Hearns was a fighter who went out on his shield and was balls against the wall. ODLH was not. They are both ATG's, and they both beat great fighters. Hearns is a little better and ranks higher for what he has accomplished.