Why Is It Everytime A Fighter Around Floyds Weight Wins A Fight

margarito has no shot? you must be crazy.....floyd already took less money to fight someone else a few years ago rather than face margrito, bad match up for floyd...he aint superman, castillio already kicked his ass...so he can be beat

 

Many fans like me think Margo would be too strong for Floyd.Others like yourself think Floyd would neutralise Margo.
OK,question for you....what was,and still is, the best way for us all to find out which argument is the right one?:think

 

He cant beat Floyd,because that fight will never take place,so in a sense he's right.

 

Make the FIGHT!:good

 

Indeed:thumbsup

 

yep....agreed! :bbb

 

Do you think Pacquiao would edge out handspeed at 140? I'm not sure.

Floyd would not want any part of close or mid range with Williams' reach and activity. He would dart in and out in full potshot mode. Paul might time him now and then but he's not quite sharp enough to consistently catch a defensive eel like Floyd IMO.

 

Exactly correct.

Anyone who thought the 147 Hatton who fought Collazo was going to beat PBF is either a mindless Hatton nuthugger and/or doesn't understand boxing.

I never thought Cotto was a threat to Floyd, and I don't think Floyd feels he is much of a threat, either. I still maintain that PBF announced his retirement (while PW-Quintana II was yet to take place) because he knew Margo was going to beat Cotto and he didn't want to get called out again by Antonio. Did Floyd also want to avoid Williams? Yes, I think he did, and I'm sure he had a pretty good feeling about how PW-CQ II would turn out. But I still feel Margarito is the chief reason Floyd left the sport when he did.

As far as what Walk With Me's original post says, it's always like this. Ask the Calzaghe Haters and their Flavor of the Month mindset. First it was Lacy. Then Kessler. Then Hopkins. Now Dawson. It's just part of the deal.

I think PBF beats Manny because he's a better all-around boxer, IMO, and because he is bigger. I definitely feel Manny's an extremely live underdog but I think Floyd takes it. And I think it's just the kind of fight (one Floyd feels he can/would win with room to spare) that will draw PBF back into the ranks of active fighters.

The Pretty Boy Haters have to have a rallying figure just as the Anti-Calzaghe crew have Dawson. After the ODLH beatdown, Manny is the new gleam in the PBF Haters' eye. He thus joins the ranks of Paul Williams and perennial favorite Tony Margarito with that distinction.

 

Honestly I'm not sure! BOth men are very....VERY fast. The only problem both men will have regarding speed is just acclimating themselves to the speed of their oppoennt.

Who ever adjusts fastest and is able to grab control of the fight first I think will be the indicator on who will win. Manny starts very fast which is why I think Manny has a chance where many don't.

I like your assement on PW vs Floyd. The think about Paul is he does have power too. But it's his lanky frame, reach and consistancy with offense that makes this fight more towards a Paul victory. Floyd isn't use to getting out of range from a guy with an 82" wing span.....And with floyds style he pot shots a lot...it's when he's at his best when he's able to control distance and able to land with his lead right....everything else from that point just falls in to place for him.

With paul...Floyd has a big risk of not getting out of range from one of paul straight rights. Floyd could get clipped trying to dart out of there after one of his offensive spurts.

The other factor is will floyd be active enough to beat Paul on points if Paul doens't give him the opportunity with his relentless attack.?

 

I don't think many people thought Hatton was the answer after beating Castillo.

I think Mayweather would most likely outpoint Margarito as Floyd's skills are vastly superior, but it would be a hell of a hard night for PBF, Margarito's size and strength and workrate would make sure of that.

I think Pacquiao could beat Floyd. I'm not saying he would, I'm not too confident of it, but it's definitely a possibility. Pacquiao will outwork Mayweather, and his speed and aggression will see him rack up the points, and I just can't see PBF stopping Pac, so I think a Pac points win is a distinct possibility. However, I can't say I think he would definitely beat him, you just can't count out a man with the sublime skill of Mayweather. Too close to call for me that one.

 

Zab also has a great deal of speed and starts fast; Floyd only took a few rounds to adjust to him. :good

If Paul could tie Floyd to a tree (by the throat, so he couldn't move his head :yep) and tee off on him he'd knock him cold by the third or fourth punch. The problem is, he'd have to land a considerable number of his punches for several rounds to wear Floyd down with his power shots if they're just grazing - and with Floyd's slipping abilities they will all be grazing. He's never had to dodge attacks as sustained or as ranged as Paul's, but Mayweather is one of the best on-the-fly adapters in the sport. He'll spot a tell fairly early on, even though Paul no longer telegraphs his punches that badly and can actually work pretty well up close. Floyd will take some hits, and there may be a few eruptions from the crowd as he rolls with a big dramatic power shot here and there, but he will establish a rhythm and assume generalship long before Paul is able to make a sizable dent. The edge in confidence and big-fight experience is just too big. Paul will start throwing wildly out of frustration, at the latest around the eighth round, and from that point on he'll be tattooed and outpointed until the final bell.

 

Exactly! I was think that myself when Zab started off fast and won the early rounds until Floyd adjusted and began to get his timing down.

THe difference is that PAC is a fighter that is non stop....he has the stamina to fight every min of every round where Zab can't...plus Zab while supremely talented is missing what Floyd and PAC both have....and that is the mentality of a champion! Zab is mentally weak when things get tough. When things get tough with Floyd or PAC they adjust!

By far Paul would have his toughest challenge against Floyd.....aside from his fight with Qintana. If both men bring their "A" game it's a tough fight...I just think the physical advantages will be a bit difficult for floyd to over come.

Paul will throw in excess of 1000 punches in a 10 or 12 round fight....even if Paul is missing and missling alot.....some of those 1000 punches are going to find their mark. And Paul is very dedicated to going to the body where it's an easier target to find.

The problem there is floyd is hella accurate and going to the body on Floyd leaves your head wide open. But I think Paul has the beard to eat floyds punches and keep it moving.

I do agree that if Floyd finds his rythm....and Paul can't disrupt his flow.....it will be a hard, HARD fight for Paul and I can't seen anyone beating Floyd when he's got his rythm going.

Hell......Castillo got Floyd out of Rythm and Floyd was injured and still was able to win. Floyd is one of the best! But everyone is beatable.

 

the great thing about a williams - floyd matchup is that williams is a hard fight for anyone because he's so difficult to prepare for.