Why Is It Everytime A Fighter Around Floyds Weight Wins A Fight

Because people won't be happy untill he loses.

 

I just wanna hear 1 Floyd hater admit that Cotto wanted no part of Floyd at 140.

 

I don't think Cotto is much of a threat. He is a good fighter but he doesn't do anything Floyd can't neutralize and Floyd can hurt him. Margarito is more of a threat simply because Floyd can't hurt him. Williams is the biggest threat by far.

 

Pac's a good adapter but at the end of the day, and this is just my shallow observation that could be culturally biased hogwash, Floyd strikes me as the more intelligent of the two. He'll start making adjustments to Pac's style by the fourth round, and Pac will try to counter them as best he can but not be able to outthink him fast enough. JMM had him confused a few times, where he just fell into patterns hurling the same old dynamite combos and getting away with it, because against someone his size or smaller they're damn effective (but wouldn't necessarily be against Floyd).

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Oscar can bang the body a little harder than Paul...or at least, could at light middleweight in 2007 anyway. :yep

DLH wailed on Floyd's midsection a few times and the man didn't flinch. And that's only when he was able to maul him up against the ropes. In the center of the ring he was grasping straws trying to get Floyd's body. Paul isn't as seasoned a bully as Oscar, I don't see him putting PBF on the ropes for longer than a couple of seconds; he'll squirm right out of there with an explosive counter check hook every time while Williams is trying to dig to his ribs.

You're right though, that on both men's best night it would be a very interesting and exciting match. Mayweather is capable of running the full gamut from snoozer to barnburner, depending on who's in front of him.

 

Agree PW and Cotto worst fights styles-wise for Floyd, would still be interested to see fight vs Margo tho, even though expect FMJ to get UD.

Not a good match up for Pac IMO. No real perceptible speed advantage here which was main factor v DLH and Floyd so much better defensively. Takes a clear UD.

 

The biggest things Cotto had going for him in terms of threatening Floyd in most people's view at the peak of his threatening (after Mosley) were his heart and his ability to change his gameplan as needed. This was before the Margarito fight, however. :yep

 

I will never doubt Pac again after Saturday night, but I could see AM and PW giving the smaller PBF a harder time than would Pac, yes. I find it hard to say this definitively, though, because except for JMM it seems these days like you can wind Pac up and send him out against almost anyone and he just goes through them like butter.

 

As Cotto found out, Margo is much larger than he is. That counts, and so does his workrate as opposed to Cotto's.

Anthony "The Messenger" Thompson (current or former pro fighter) said here not too long ago that the reason PBF's team didn't want to fight AM was because they were concerned PBF would break/seriously hurt his hands with the number of shots he would have to throw to keep Margo off of him. That makes sense. I don't know if it's true or not, but I could see Floyd worrying about that and not wanting to get into another Castillo I scenario.

Cotto is a better and more skilled boxer than is Margo, but Margo has a steel skull (at least recently and when not facing Santos), is much larger than Cotto and has a crazy workrate (as does Williams). It's a match-up thing.

I feel Floyd could outbox and possibly even stop Cotto. Cotto is a more manageable size and workrate producer than either Margo or Williams for PBF. I'm not saying Cotto would be some walkover for PBF, just that he's someone who Floyd physically and stylistically would be better suited to fight than either of the WW giants Margo or Williams.

For example, PBF is 1" taller and has 5" more reach than Miguel Cotto. Compare that with how he physically matches-up with either PW or AM.

 

Its not shallow at all. That observation that Floyd is more intelligent is very true. Floyd is the most intelligent fighter in this era. No doubt about it that if Manny and floyd faught a "Tatical" fight...he'd win. But I think Manny would make it a fight, floyd would have to engage more than he'd like and I think that might take Floyd out of his comfort zone.

You make some good points! We are just coming from different angles. The best way to find out is to make it happen. This fight would be HUGE for boxing and I think it would be the fight of Floyds GREAT career if it happens.:good

 

Well I gotta say, I laughed my ass off at the thought of a prime Pac fighting a shot DLH (thinking that a shot DLH would plow a prime Pac effortlessly), so I'm not in a position now to get on a high horse and put down the idea of Pacquiao-Mayweather.

It would be good for the sport, and it would be entertaining and competitive. I'd still put several paychecks on Floyd. :yep

 

Pac just moved up and beat DLH, a multi-division champ and a bigger fighter than PBF....so how is Pac not ready for PBF?

 

Based on what we all witnessed Saturday Night, Pac is ready for Floyd. I see the guy doing better than Oscar did. He looked nothing but excellent. Manny's the best canidate to bounce around Floyd and has the handspeed to make it a reality. I wanna see this fight made.

 

Because he left so many questions unanswered.