Why Is It That Alot Of You Are Discrediting Martinez?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Dec 6, 2009.


  1. patpatpts

    patpatpts Active Member Full Member

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    both william & sergio are good fighters and thats the truth. i ain't buying the hype though. walk with me you said the bold after the first quintana first and i don't think he learn to much of nothing. so what can he take away from this fight. we already knew he was a tough son of *****.
     
  2. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Martinez was robbed,
    A rematch should not happen in america or it will be the same outcome, another robbery.
     
  3. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because it is esb....PW has beaten margo, winky, quintana in devastating fashion and well as verno for belts...now he beats a great fighter in martinez and he is EXPOSED and a HYPE JOB....if u are not the best on here u are the worst.....arreola destroys minto but he is a fat clown and a=everyone says they have this new respect for minto....PW wqon the fight at MW....I never thought he could beat floyd but his stock def does not drop by beating martinez
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Williams isn't going to lay down. He showed that yet again. You were right, there aren't very many people out there who can beat him. Still. Eventually he might be led back to fighting Martinez, if he has no where else to go and he's really being taken seriously again a few fights from now.
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he learned alot... in the first quintana **** he was doing the same dumb ass **** over and over again.... the first 3 rounds he was making mistakes and in the center of the fight he fixed it.... like i said i need to see rounds 8-12 still

    i have no doubt in my mind he will get led back into a martinez fight but i dont expect it to happen right away... i think theyll try to move back down or just take a easy fight just to get his or keep his confidence high...

    i think he will win another fight with martinez a lot easier... he will rush in way less and not be so anxious and win a ud ... imo @least
     
  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    115-113, Sergio Martinez.

    I think Paul can win a rematch if he makes some adjustments, but he really didn't win this fight, but he did fight an epic battle, which should be enough to get respect from anyone.
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i was scoring the fight before hbo took it down from youtube..

    1 = pw or tie
    2 = martinez
    3 = toss up edge to sm
    4 = pw
    5 = pw
    6 = toss up edge to pw
    7 = pw
    8-12 i still need to see...

    i gave the first to paul or draw because they both scored a knock down... i dont think either kd was dramatic enough to warrant either guy with an extra point and in terms of the actual round.. pw won it...

    so like i said either a draw or a pw round... from what everyone is saying either guy could have won this fight so its not fair to say either of them didnt deserve it
     
  8. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    That is a bad, biased card.
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Paul Williams is exactly who I thought he was. He's a good fighter with great physical attributes who leans in and gets tagged with shots that he shouldn't. The amount of counters he ate through the night are the reason I've always maintained that Floyd Mayweather would eat him alive. Martinez put on a great show also and both guys should get a pat on the back for the grit they displayed.
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is anyone surprised? :lol:
     
  11. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Martinez won the early and the late rounds, while Williams got the best of the middle rounds.
     
  12. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Good point. Some of these people are acting weird about this. Its like a guy isnt allowed to get punched in the face during a boxing match.:huh
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how is it biased... pw was controlling the the rounds but he was getting countered... and he wasnt getting countered enough for me to award martinez the rounds...
     
  14. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    The MUCH cleaner and effective shots were landed by Martinez, open your eyes.
     
  15. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Paul Williams can't be top 5 p4p, top ten okay. I don't know if he'll ever learn anymore than he has now. I think Mosley might too old to beat Paul, and I think Floyd's style would be enough to get past Paul. Your basis for Paul over Floyd is workrate? What happens when PW has a hard time landing on PBF and Floyd can counter him and give him movement with that defense?