Why is it that Hatton is finished but Cotto isn't?

Without hitting and holding, Clottey would put Hatton's head on a swivel. With ease.

 

:goodI think C pretty much sums it up

 

that's bull**** and you know it, or you didn't see the fight, being stunned doesn't mean you're going to get stopped.

sorry but you're talking crap again, what fights did hatton need a friendly ref in before he won his title? and hatton only had 1 fight in the uk after winning his title from koysta apart from lazcano and that was against maussa and he won every round and then ko'd him, why didn't he lose any fights after winning his title they weren't in the uk.

 

He doesn't win the fight against a past his best KT in the states.

He beats Maussa

He BARELY gets by Collazo.

Beats Urango.

Beats a shot to peices Castillo.

KTFO out by PBF

Goes back to Manchester, more ridiculous reffing to get by Lazcano.

Beats feather fisted Paulie.

KTFO brutally and quickly by Pac.

In other words, he's about 50/50 to beat what are considered good B level US fighters (unless the fight is in Manchester) and a lock to get KTFO by A level US fighters. He's hype. Smoke and mirrors. He only gets away with his outright cheating style fighting in the UK, most especially Manchester. One of the B level fighters he barely squeaks by would have gotten him long before he ever faced KT, if he had been fighting in the US.

 

yeah yeah it's bull**** that he would lose that same fight in the states against koysta. hatton beat him fair and sqaure that night he was a relentless machine, and was too much for him.

that was his first ever fight at 147, at short notice when he thought he was going to be fighting lazcano at 140 i think it was, but he dropped out injured so he had little time to prepare, but he still fought a decent belt holder in his first fight at the higher weight. Cotto has never even fought let alone beat a belt holder before. Collazo would give cotto a good fight too, and cottos BARELY got by clottley.

no one was saying he was shot to pieces before the fight, maybe past his best a bit, but he was stioll p4p #8 and considered dangerous. and hatton beat him in style, dropping him iun the process which is something no one else has ever done.

and? cotto was stopped by a far more inferior fighter to pbf in margo.

you keep going on about this ridiculous reffing in that match, i still don't think you've seen it you're just saying what all the other haters say.

more impressively than cotto did

maybe, but cotto was embarresed too and totally outclassed, you can hardly use hattons defeat as a way of bigging up cotto, and cotto was a WW unlike hatton who was a JWW

so not "in other words", in your words which you've proved mean very little. he's not 50/50 to beat good B level fighters at all, at 140 he never came close to losing with the exception of pac.

Considering he has only had a couple of fights in the uk and has mainly fought in the US since winning his title proves he doesn't need a uk ref, and proves you're talking out your ass.

and as far as you saying he would have been beaten by a B level fighter long before koysta if he had been fighting in the US with his "cheating style", well if you new anything about him, rather than going by what you read on message boards, you would know that the koysta fight was the first fight he employed your so called "cheating style". it was a tactic that worked well on the night to get the job done, staying close so he didn't give him room to let one go, all within he rules.

 

Because Hatton got flattened! Cotto is a warrior who finishes on his feet. F*CK Ricky Hatton!!!

 

lol, hatton is accused of most things on this board, but as far as being a warrior, that's something he can't not be accused of being. if anything, the fact that the only way to stop hatton is to knock him out makes him more of a warrior than if he were to quit when getting a beating.

i'm not saying cotto isn't a warrior btw just because he quit against margo or ran the last few rounds from pac, you can't blame him for that. in fact it's the last minute of unessarcary punishment in a fight that does the most damage.

but hatton would never quit and he would never run, you've got to ko him or win on points. so of all the things to say about hatton when comparing him to cotto you picked the wrong one.

 

don't you think it takes a warrior to take punches cotto took for eleven rounds when the opponent had concrete on both hands?

now i know theres no proof margarito wore concrete in that fight, but common sense tells me otherwise. why would margarito try and cheat against mosley and not against the fighter who has beaten mosley?

 

That's actually a terrible post.

Aside from that, I like Hatton, but he was/is a limited fighter. On boxing skill alone, he just can't hang with the top guys. He has balls, though and that goes a long way in my book. He'd fight anyone, and take the fight to them. When you're like that, you're bound to run into a few walls. With his boxing skills, he needs to get in close and use his holding/wrestling to be effective. When he can't do it he gets beat up.

Cotto has displayed far better boxing skills than Hatton during their careers and can fight with the elite without using questionable tactics. And for my money, he would maul Hatton h2h.

Both guys deserve respect. Both were warriors who fell just short of being truly elite.

 

concrete? yeah and he wore an invisible crash helmet too. the difference between the cotto and mosley fight was the location. nevada apparently have much stricter rules regarding wrap inspection, etc than california.

cotto just lost to a fighter that could take his power and keep coming back. whereas mosely has a granite chin and more power than cotto. that's the difference.

 

.....It's called a mullet.


Anyway, are you saying that Margarito's wraps would have been legal in LV?

PS-What's up Roly?

 

mullet....lol, yeah you got me on that one.

no i'm not saying they would have been legal there, although i'm still a little unclear what exactly was found in the mosely fight, but i'm saying that they have much stricter inspections and rules in nevada governing wraps and according to the top man of the NSAC dodgy wraps wouldn't get past there inspections and supervison of the wrapping.

 

didn't cotto show a granite chin in that fight? his legs showed no effect to the punches, and he wasn't knocked down because of his chin, he went down due to the accumulation of punches and punishment he was taking. basically he got beat down, not knocked out.

is it also such a far fetch thought to think that margarito wore concrete against cotto, when he got caught trying to wear them against mosley, a fighter that cotto has already beaten?

 

Hey Roly,

Here's a couple of links to check out. If you don't feel like reading thru, I selected a few excerpts


http://www.myboxingfans.com/2009/02/...te-now-sealed/


http://www.scribd.com/doc/17736616/S...AC-a-Margarito



A few excerpts.......

License inspector Mike Bray was called to testify and to reiterate what was found on the hand wraps–which he said looked “moist and dirty looking.

Recalling what he saw when summoned to the dressing room and first seeing the wrap,
“I immediately retrieved it. I believe it was an illegal pad–it needed to be confiscated. I observed what appeared to be a bloodstain. It was not new and their was a white substance smeared across the knuckles. It was hard to the touch–like Plaster of Paris.”- Mike Bray, License Inspector


It was stated that there was more arguing from Capetillo and Richardson in the dressing room. When Lohuis walked in he saw the tape was too far back on the wrists and told them take it off and in both English and Spanish, trying to calm them down as the wraps were removed again. Having over 25 years experience he said he’s supervised over 20,000 fights. When questioned if he still believed the hand wraps were indeed illegal he stated firmly,


“No doubt then, no doubt now. The wraps I found had the knuckle pad altered in some form. They were hard. I didn’t think twice when I pulled them out as illegal.” - Dean Lohuis, Chief Inspector