Why is Joe Frazier so underrated on here?

themaster458 · Jun 16, 2025

Twilson51 said: ↑

You're still a boy MEN have the dignity to deliver answers Earnie Shavers took a boy like you and made him quit through his cowering guard YOU are hiding behind your gloves amigo
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Cool story bro

mcvey · Jun 16, 2025

Twilson51 said: ↑

What makes a fighter a super duper heavyweight? define it
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About 240lbs, and 6ft 5 makes you a modern sized heavy.

OddR · Jun 16, 2025

Steve Fero said: ↑

Frazier was a tough slugger no one could outslug man to man he was too fierce too determined too conditioned coming straight at you constantly till he met someone with toughness skill athletic ability who was bigger heavier and stronger then him like foreman. Then it was a no contest. He was slaughtered. When he fought good people under 200 like Quarry Foster and Ellis or over 200 but slow and unskilled like Bonavena and Chuvalo he was a buzzsaw. Didn’t work against Foreman who was bigger just as talented and strong enough to put him on the canvas when he came right at him.
There was a reason he never fought people like Lyle and Shavers though they didn’t possess the athletic ability of Foreman they fell into that category of too big and too strong for Frazier. He had more of a chance against them but they had the size and power to out him on the canvas. How bout Liston they never made a match with him. You like Fraziers chances coming right at Liston?
Usyk is a different breed of newer bigger fighter. He’s a master boxer along with being 6 2 1/2 220 of well conditioned athlete not a fatty like Buster Mathis. You want to claim Manuel Ramos or Bugner also as super heavies please. Bugner had no punch and Ramos was third rate skill wise. Neither had the weight conditioning and strength approaching new guys like Klitchcos, Lennox Lewis, Tyson Fury.
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Fury blew his quite a bit of his talent by constantly blooning up in weight for like half his career but sure that's the case when it comes to the Kiltschko's and Lennox Lewis I agree strongly.

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