Why is Joe Louis so underrated H2H?

Ali's incredible chin and speed would hold him in great stead against anyone more recent imo. Joe's power, speed and precision would also have him competitive. People forget Joe had blinding handspeed. He may have been a bit methodical in his footwork but his hands were blisteringly fast.

 

I put him at #2, but often #1 ATG depending on the day. It is often splitting hairs to a nonsensical point, especially since it is conjecture.
Bottoming he is top tier.

 

Kevin seems to have upset a few people on this thread. What exactly has he said that people strongly disagree with? I think his posts have been measured and pretty accurate.

 

The man was a perfect puncher...watch his feet...almost always in position to throw great combinations...

 

:rofl

 

Its a pet peeve of mine, too. Ali gets a pass, others don't. Your last sentence perfectly highlights the absurdity of that stance.

 

Saying Louis never dominated a fight with the jab for a start.

 

You might want to go back and reread that post a little more carefully... :good

 

More importantly though, surely you recognize that there have been plenty of heavyweights with more dominant jabs?

 

So Lewis could not control the range with Rahman and McCall but could with Louis? Snipes can hit Holmes with a simple 1-2 but Holmes keeps Joe at bay all night?

Ali's mobility is a valid consideration, but even he couldn't dance for 15 rounds. Lesser fighters than Joe caught up with him. I don't see why Louis can't.

 

Why rely on one punch when you have all of them? I call it having an all round offense, not a flaw or weakness on Louis's behalf.

 

What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

 

This actually underlines the point I was making with the quote from Foreman.


If I had been setting a trap (which I wasn't and couldn't be bothered to) I couldn't have asked for someone to fall so easily into it.

Amazing really.

 

He is the greatest fighter of all time

 

I think in terms of short, power punching technique Joe Louis may well be the GOAT. Him or Alexis Arguello is who you wanna study for punching technique and generating max leverage.