Why is Juan Manuel Marquez rated so highly??

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ignorance might have more to do with the severe butthurt caused by KTFO6.
     
  2. BetterThenYou

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    Boxing Truth... Are you a fan of FLoyd Mayweather? Simple yes or no
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

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    some of my favorite fighters are mexicans. Chavez,Cuevas,Morales. He has handpicked lesser guys and then lost to Pacman and Mayweather. Lucky punch in the 4th fight. I didn't think Pacman should have fought him another time. Pacman fights a guy 4 times he is going to lose one of them probably and he did.
     
  4. Boxing Truth

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    No.

    Im not a fan of no one.

    Just boxing, in general.
     
  5. BetterThenYou

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    Ok. So you are not a fan of Floyd Mayweather. I understand. If that is the case, then why do you jump on the same calling card that Mayweather does about PPV numbers? If you dont like the guy, then don't use the same 'excuses' that he uses to avoid certain fighters. You cannot bring PPV numbers into the equation if you dont like the guy who brought it all to our attention.
     
  6. ElCyclon

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    Great qualifier, it really makes you post seem objective:roll:
     
  7. Boxing Truth

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    The fact of the matter is that Juan Manuel Marquez has:

    1.) won World Titles in 4 weight classes
    2.) hs been in 17 World Title fights spanning over a decade
    3.) has KO'd Pacquiao like no one else
    4.) has beaten Pound 4 Pound boxing greats-Marco A. Barrera, Manny Pacquiao
    5.) has beaten top fighters Juan Diaz, Robbie Peden, Miachael Katsidis, Manuel Medina (a former World Champ), Mike Alvarado, etc.
    6.) has been in half a dozen PPV main events with each generating over 1 million PPV buys
    7.) fought an overweight Floyd Mayweather that cheated the weight scales by purposely coming overweight.

    over half of the fighters in any organizations' top ten list (about 80% of the fighters in the top 10) doesnt come close to JMM's achievements.
     
  8. Boxing Truth

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    Floyd, alone didnt bring those PPV numbers.
    His opponent did as well.

    when Floyd fought Arturo gatti, it made 350,000 PPVs
    Floyd vs. Carlos Baldomir = 400,000 PPVs

    Floyd vs. Juan Manuel Marquez = over 1 Million PPV's sold.
    This shows, JMM is a big draw.
     
  9. Boxing Truth

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    JMM was robbed against Cris John and against Norwood.

    John was given a decision because it was a hometown decision.

    Norwood loss was politically motivated.

    Bradley fight was close, and would've been a Draw, had Bradley not punch JMM off balance in the last round.
     
  10. Boxing Truth

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    Juan Manuel Marquez's highlights:


    [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXM1kOzv2M8[/url]


    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDzIFrtzbEs[/url]

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  11. Border Patrol

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    JMM is overrated. His fight with Floyd illustrates this. NO p4p hero looks THAT terrible against Floyd regardless of excuses.
     
  12. ElCyclon

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    Marquez being judged on his performance vs the #1 PFP fighter in the world, where as we all know, JMM went into the fight with every possible disadvantage.

    How must we rate a fighter who has been knocked out 2x and KTFO :think
     
  13. Boxing Truth

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    JMM did better against Floyd than Hatton did.
    JMM did better against Floyd than most of Floyd's opponents.

    JMM has a far better resume than any fighter to come from your Puerto Rican island.
     
  14. BetterThenYou

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    Again i will repeat... Im not talking about weight classes or titles. Im talking about opposition.
    You just simply dont get it do you?! Im not talking about the amount of ppv numbers, im saying that the mere fact of bringing ppv numbers up to defend your point is completely contradictory for the same reason you dislike Floyd. Same as those who say Floyd is on PED's. Well you wouldn't have brought that to our attention had Floyd not brought it up in the first place. Bringing ppv numbers up to prove your point is going against you
     
  15. Boxing Truth

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    numbers 4.) and 5.) are about JMM's opposition.
    there are very very few fighters in the last 10 years, with that kind of opposition that JMM has had.

    JMM has basically fought all of the top competition out there.

    JMM PPV huge PPV draw shows that he's a fighter in high demand and is highly appreciative of fight fans.

    Andre Ward, Nonito Donaire, Cotto, have not brought in the number of PPV's that JMM has brought.
    This shows that JMM is in high demand by fight fans.

    JMM's last fight against Alvarado drew over 12,000 fans and a high TV ratings.
    Fight fans know JMM is a top notch fighter.