Why is Julian Jackson considered a Harder Puncher than Gerald McClellan?

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  1. anj

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    31-3 (29 KO) - McClellan - almost all were FIRST ROUND KO's, all of McClellan's top competition were knocked out in the first round...including glass chin Jackson.

    55-6 (49 KO) - Jackson.
     
  2. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Jackson didn't have a glass chin.
     
  3. Jorodz

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    what top competition did he beat in one though? he scored plenty of first round knockouts but his only top competition were a shot to **** mugabi, jackson himself and benn. out of those, he scored 2 first round knockouts (still impressive) a fifth round knockout (in a fight he was losing imo and got rocked many times) and got knocked out by benn.

    mugabi was at the end of the line by that point and jackson was near blind in one eye in the second fight and past both his prime weight and form. impressive sure but that's the best he has on his resume.

    that along with the fact that he was MASSIVE in the ring, rehydrating to nearly 180 by reports keeps him from the upper echelon for many i think
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    McClellan was better than you're giving him credit for. However this last point is true. And the point of fact was that Jackson was a bit shopworn 33 & 34 years old in their fights while McClellan was 25 & 26.
     
  5. Jorodz

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    my post was a little harsh for sure when i re-read it. dynamite hitter, massive guy, good fundamentals. just doesn't have the record or numbers to put him at the top of the all time great hitters imo
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Single shot to single shot...one punch for one punch...of course Jackson was ther hardest hitter.
     
  7. heavy_hands

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    Jackson is considered harder puncher than anyone pfp
     
  8. dyna

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    At 154 Jackson was p4p maybe the hardest hitter ever.

    G-man was a 180 lbs middleweight with an ultimate chin relying on wild hayemakers.
     
  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bob Fitzimmons is always overlooked as a heavy puncher at that weight range.

    Worked as a blacksmith...ended up a couple fights with his opponents listed as "victims" sadly.
     
  10. Seamus

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    Sam Langford would also be considered in that uppermost echelon.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pound for pound I'd take Jackson over anyone in the power category. McClellan was just a bigger Middleweight (Jackson being at his most destructive at 154), and may very well have hit a bit harder there than Jackson. Not much, though.

    McCllellan's primary advantage against Jackson in their first fight was his granite chin. And it was a granite chin. He got stung pretty good a few times, but for him to have taken that many flush shots from Jackson and shake them off is incredibly impressive. Just as much as his power if you ask me.

    I agree with Jorodz, though. Jackson was winning that fight prior to the low blows. They caused a lull in the action and Jackson pretty much got caught cold directly after the fight resumed.
     
  12. MAG1965

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    Jackson's opponents went down and out with one punch.
     
  13. Seamus

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    And if the rumors are to be believed, McClellan started to suffer some real headaches after the first fight with Jackson.
     
  14. Nate 2011

    Nate 2011 Active Member Full Member

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    While both guys were mostly remembered as huge hitters in their day and McClellan did eventually knockout J.Jackson toward the near end of Jackson's career I believe the reason Jackson considered the harder hitter of the two simply stems from the fact that Jackson "The Jamaican Hawk" was involved in slightly more high profiled matches, and albeit mostly undercard matches, than (The Forgotten Warrior)McClellan was involved in.
     
  15. Seamus

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    The "Jamaican Hawk"?

    He was from the Virgin Islands.