Why is Kovalev-Ward considered a robbery when fights like Pac-JMM 2&3 and Hopkins-Calzaghe aren't?

For f*ck's sake..... those fights were called robbies as well by posters. nice selective memory Pimp...

 

Robert Byrd
Larry Merchant
Harold Lederman
Dan Rafael
Max Kellerman
Roy Jones
Michael Buffer

All were there and felt Kovalev won as did the fans and most in press row. That is why it is considered a robbery. Also
Antonio Tarver, Vasyl Lomochenko and Oscar De La Hoya have Kovalev as the winner. I am not sure if they were attendance or not.

Kovalev won is the consensus. It is what it is.

 

Here's the difference, C. Jmm cameback and climbed out from an even bigger hole
than Ward by using combinations. If Ward had done the same, outscoring/outlanding Kov, he'd have a great case, but one clean jab or punch at a time ain't going to cut it, especially when Kov returned fire almost always. Ward's bodywork was a great gameplan, actually it was essential against Kov, but Ward didn't outland Kov enough to win the fight, on top of that, Kov had the knockdown in his favor.

 

The JMM-PAC fights were closer than Ward Kovalev. Ironically the man who won the clearest in any of those fights actually got the loss.

 

A lot of people don't realize this, but Pac drastically out landed and threw many more punches than Marquez in the 3rd fight.

They cry robbery, but neglect the stats.

 

Indeed, Marquez after clearly beating Pac in the 3rd fight actually got a loss.

 

No he was out landed by a ton. Deal with it.

 

Did I say he was wrong? You're smarter than that, CJ, but you're disappointing me lately. This is two now.

 

It's been a while but if I remember correctly I had Calzaghe beating Hopkins 8 Rounds to 4

 

You agree more than anyone that they were all close fights and 4 of your 5 were against the official verdicts, so I'm curious why you think the majority unlike the others call Kovalev-Ward a robbery?

 

Enough already. It was a robbery because Kovalev won clearly and it wasn't as close as people are saying. As the champion with all the belts, the challenger needs to take them away by doing something. All Ward did was survive. Some people think survival means winning the fight. No it doesn't.

We will see if Ward takes the rematch. If he doesn't it will be blatantly obvious to even the most blind Ward apologists.

 

So Marquez won his rounds more dominant than Ward? A single or a combination, doesn't matter; winning a round is winning a round. Fights aren't scored as a whole, they're scored round by round. So despite Kovalev putting in the more effective work, which I believe we ALL can agree on, it's negated by those who felt he lost majority of the rounds.

Every argument I see for Kovalev is 1) the knockdown, 2) the punch stats, 3) the more effective puncher. Here's my counter, respectively: 1) the knockdown is counted, not ignored, -1 for Ward, Kovalev wins that ROUND. 2) nobody is counting punches when they score a fight and 3) of course he's more effective punching, but did he consistently do enough to win the rounds? Does his power jab negate Ward's 2-3 counters?

Nothing wrong with scoring for Kovalev, despite my card being for Ward, I thought Kovalev would get the victory prior to the decision. But you can't argue that there's NO WAY Ward won. The fight was a toss up.

 

Hopkins was robbed? Put down the crack pipe.

 

It seems most on this thread are pretty reasonable and fair. It is call robbery because people who genuinely believe kov won really do. It's just sometime thread like this is hijacked by nutcase who clearly have a preference one way or another. I don't have a preference, I thought kov won quite clearly. For what it's worth here is what I thought for some of the fights mentioned. Winner in front.

 

Calzaghe Hopkins close but clear
Floyd Oscar clear
Pac Marquez 3 close
Marquez pac 2 close
Floyd Castillo 1 close but clear
Kovalev ward clear