Why is LaStarza a high rated name in Marciano's resume?

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  1. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    This is at best the 5th rated man on Marciano's resume and it was to clear up a closely fought fight the first time.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You think what you posted supports your claim that removing him was a punishment for or condemnation of having a close fight with Rozicki, as opposed to having not done much AT HEAVYWEIGHT in a while (which is the reason they actually give in that transcript) but it doesn't.
     
  3. Dubblechin

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    They just watched him fight a close bout with a 13-0 cruiserweight and even though he won felt he was no longer a top 10 heavyweight.

    They didn't drop him from the ratings because he LOOKED GREAT.

    Jesus Christ. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    They dropped him because he hasn't fought a heavyweight in a contest billed as being contested at heavyweight since 2019.

    "Whatever we consider him to be, he isn't a top-10 heavyweight" - per what you posted.
     
  5. Dubblechin

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    They didn't say they dropped him because he hasn't fought at heavyweight in three years. He fought at heavyweight in MARCH this year (eight months ago).
    :rolleyes::duh

    They dropped him AFTER WATCHING HIM FIGHT ROZICKI and felt he was no longer a top 10 heavyweight.

    YOU WERE WRONG. You asked for someone from Ring to speak to it. The RING RATINGS PANEL said he's no longer a top 10 heavyweight.

    "WHATEVER WE CONSIDER HIM TO BE, HE ISN'T A TOP 10 HEAVYWEIGHT."

    I don't know how you can confuse the words "He isn't a top 10 heavyweight."
     
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  6. Boxed Ears

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    I've actually read through THOUSANDS LITERALLY of pages on Boxrec and I still have yet to find fighters who aren't officially or unofficially losers or who don't really have anyone on their resume that I know anything about, so I hesitate to rate anyone that highly as of now. But, as of now, in that such a time and manner as has been previously discussed, I must decline to rate LaStarza or any of his opposition highly enough to consider them to be more than that which is or is not better than the level of just anyone who is or is not even an athlete.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Rivas vs. Sylvera Louis II was at bridger, it was the inaugural contest of the weight class...as Rivas vs. Rozicki was the inaugural title bout. Rivas hasn't campaigned at heavyweight since 2019.

    Nowhere in the provided transcript do they say their decision is an indictment of Rozicki himself nor of Rivas' performance against him. They said there were more deserving names of a top-10 ranking at HW. Makes sense, because those other names actually compete at ...you know, heavyweight.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    NOBODY - including RING - RECOGNIZES "BRIDGER."

    o_O

    I can't take it.

    You asked for a source, I cited it. If you want to ignore it, ignore it.

    The point remains they would never rate anyone who lost to a 14-9-2 journeyman 10 months earlier the #1 contender today. None of the top 10 heavyweights today lost to a journeyman, let alone the #1 contender.

    They dropped Rivas, even though he won, because he didn't look good against a 13-0 cruiser.

    My point stands.
     
  9. Tonto62

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    Oh leave it out with that Rocky **** ,anytime someone says one of his opponents wasn't that special the Marciano fan club come out of the wood work.
    Lastarza was a decent fighter who really did not deserve a title shot.That's my position and it has zero to do with anyone else! I don't post for others to like what I post,I post what I truly believe and if you ,or anyone else doesn't agree with it that''s fine,it's just my honest opinion and I have no agenda about it whatsoever.
    The insecurity of some here is incredible! The OP asked peoples opinions on Lastarza and I gave mine, if you don't like it tough !
     
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  10. Tonto62

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    Based on splitting a pair with in and outer Bucceroni and a controversial split dec over Layne.
     
  11. McGrain

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    Yeah, and some other stuff :lol:
     
  12. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah losing to light heavyweight journeyman Rocky Jones who floored him.

    Let's have all that," other stuff ,"and we can discuss it.
     
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  13. janitor

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    Look, I am not saying that he was a great fighter.

    I am not even saying that he was a great contender.

    However he was the #1 contender, and it was probably a justifiable ranking.

    Obviously we know in hindsight that he was a flash in the pan, but he is probably among Marciano's ten best wins on his ranking alone.

    Perhaps Don Cockell should get more respect in this regard?
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Well he had a narrow fight with Rocky and then went 16-2 against shitty opposition. This was enough to position him as a contender.

    If he was 2-1 as a pro he wouldn't have got that ranking, is the point. He has a career and a career arch, like every other highly ranked guy there's been. Almost.
     
  15. Tonto62

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    He had a narrow fight with Rocky 3 and a half years earlier.