Why is maravilla martinez "too big" for pac...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, May 17, 2011.


  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    and my thing is this....if he's already making fools quit (oscar), punishing fools and letting them survive the 12th round (margo), and toying with guys like mosley, who are all just as big, hit as hard and are not that far from maravilla, THEN WHY ****EN NOT.....size obviously wasn't a factor in any of those fights....so now you're gonna tell me that maravillas weight on the actual day of the fight (which would probably only be like 5 more pounds than margo) is the reason whey dont want none of sergio.....hahahaahahahaahh
     
  2. ahcef

    ahcef Member Full Member

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    And your thing was derailed when Marg at 150 ****ed Pac's ribs that he slept on his side for 2 days, they decided it was his last fight above 147. Unless you want Sergio to fight under 150.
     
  3. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    If he can make 154 in a healty manner then I'm inclined to agree with you Freddy! But lets be realistic here...Even if he were to make the weight, I still doubt he would fight Martinez given that he's a high risk, low reward type of fighter and Martinez doesnt really have that much to lose to the likes of Pacman at this stage.
     
  4. Real_Truth

    Real_Truth Guest

    C'mon man, even you know you don't really believe that :lol:
     
  5. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    He's too big because he'd knock pac the **** out. Anything else is just bull****.
     
  6. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the truth of it: Oscar was a bigger guy than Floyd, a much bigger guy than Pac. Remember how when he had his fights at middleweight he looked completely ineffective? punches bounced off sturm and hopkins. He didn't belong at 160 at all, but for whatever reason tito did.

    oscar's effective weights: 135-154.

    titos effective weights: 140-160.

    hopkins effective weights: 160-175

    Pacs effective weigths: very low (lets say 122)-147. because of power and speed

    He can't keep fighting these guys without losing effectiveness. Oscar would probably fail against Martinez in his prime, just too effective and prime at middle.

    Now lets think about sergios weights: 147-? (prime 160)

    Hearns: 147-175 because of power.

    these weight ranges of effectiveness are very very valid, and pac is at his limit, he is much naturally smaller than all these other famous welters.
     
  7. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    and margo got hurt even worst...probably couldn't see right for weeks....should margo not fight filipinos anymore :lol::lol::lol:


    that was a bull**** ****en excuse cause we all knew manny wanted a free ****en title, at a bogus ****en weight of 150.....
     
  8. Real_Truth

    Real_Truth Guest

    Dude seriously, why do you keep saying Oscar, Margarito and Mosley are the same size as Martinez? :huh Those guys fought Pac at 147lbs, Margo at 150lbs...IF Martinez can make those weights then yes, you have an argument that they are about the same size. But Martinez himself said he has a hard time making 154lbs...I don't give a **** what he was fighting at 18months ago, fact is he is too big for Pac now :deal
     
  9. ci324

    ci324 Member Full Member

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    Or why doesn't Martinez go up in weight and challenge the super middleweights? I'd pick him to beat ward
     
  10. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In addition, I would like to list floyd's effective range as 130-147, he really doesn't belong at 154 and there's a reason there was only a fight there.

    He is the right size to fight manny right now, being just a little naturally bigger.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Exactly!! Freddy's whole premise is off from the very beginning.
     
  12. ahcef

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    In a way, you answered why Pac cannot go above 150.
     
  13. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Then Pacquiao isn't really an 8th division champion. That wbc junior middleweight title he won was a GOD DAMN JOKE!!!
     
  14. ahcef

    ahcef Member Full Member

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    That's what I thought too. He should not fight above 150.
     
  15. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Then tell that to ******ed Pacquiao fans and the media that Pacquiao beating Margarito for a papar belt at a damn catchweight is a damn joke.