Why is Marciano so rated?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    9 - Larry Holmes
    10-Rocky Marciano
    11-Harry Wills
     
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  2. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    a ten ranking is fair enough. a ranking outside of ten IS A SLAP in the face
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Rocky is a very, very interesting subject.

    I think 3-13 can be justified, the widest range of any great HW.
     
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  4. MancMexican

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    great vid
     
    MancMexican, Sep 2, 2008
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  5. SuzieQ49

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    naw 11-13 cannot be justified. he is an automatic top 10. 6-0 against hall of famers, beat 4 of the best heavyweight contenders of his era, knocked out every single top 10 contender he ever faced going 12-0 against them, always gave rematches in close fights and won desicevley 2nd time, ducked no one. hes automatic top 10. h2h rate him whered u like.
     
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  6. Jerry

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    Holmes beat Ali, Tyson beat Holmes. Your logic fails when turned against you.
     
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  7. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL holmes beat a shot to **** ali

    and tyson beat an older holmes

    i never said tyson wouldnt beat holmes now did i?

    next please
     
    vargasfan1985, Sep 2, 2008
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  8. Jerry

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    Thats my point :rofl

    Cant judge a fighter on who beat who.
     
    Jerry, Sep 2, 2008
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  9. sugarkills

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    Um, no. You should move Rocky up at least 9 more slots.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    If ten can be justified, 11 certainly can, there isn't that much in it, a shade. I could justify Foreman being above Marciano, for example, although I don't have him above Rocky at the moment. Other great fighters I have below Rocky are Will and Dempsey, who I think should be below him, that arguably could be ranked above him.

    I am obviously happy at the fighters I already have above him. But again, I have Holmes at #9 and Holmes could be ranked below Rocky - so could guys like Tyson, Jeffries, it wouldn't be hard. And ther are even arguments for placing him above Frazier, Liston, Lewis. I think that the only fighters he can't possibly be above are Louis and Ali.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    Automatically? An automatic top 3? I've yet to see any proof of that being reasonable from any source at all.
     
    McGrain, Sep 2, 2008
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  12. h2hkiller

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    He was the best of his time, that was for sure.
     
    h2hkiller, Sep 2, 2008
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  13. vargasfan1985

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    ok man but rocky beat guys who yes, were older, but were still capable and winning fights. ali was doing like drugs or w.e to lose weight to holmes. didnt he like land 20 punches against him? that shows the mismatch old ali being absolutely shot
     
    vargasfan1985, Sep 2, 2008
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  14. TheH1tMan

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    Good vid.
     
    TheH1tMan, Sep 3, 2008
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  15. TheH1tMan

    TheH1tMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You haven't?

    Does this help for example:

    Or perhaps you think your 'sources' are better more reliable and have more actual knowledge or experience?
     
    TheH1tMan, Sep 3, 2008
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