Why is Martinez too big for Pac?

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  1. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    Stupid :patsch
     
  2. JohnAnthony

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    You'e not ******ed are you? :patsch
     
  3. JUSTAFIGHTFAN

    JUSTAFIGHTFAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly and you''re using HW as an example where there are no more higher weights.
     
  4. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you want Pac to fight 10 more pounds than his career high. And you want it to be his next fight. Sounds logical to me.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and consider how much he outlanded margarito. 3-4 punches of pacquiao that hurt margarito was just the equivalent of one powerful uppercut or bodyshot from margarito. also being smaller means havng less punch resistance so if martinez would outweigh pac on fight night by as much as 20 pounds or more, i have no doubt that even if pac block his shots, it would have a huge effect on him.

    pac has already stated that if martinez can make 150, he is all for it. but i doubt that this is for the best interest of both fighters. martinez could not make this weight and at 150, pac is still to small and will weigh just 144.
     
  6. elTerrible

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    It aint just size, its style AND size. He aint going to be a punching bag all night. Its a bad fight for Pac. I actually dont want to see it because I want to see Pac - Floyd

    I want to see

    Pac-Floyd
    Shane - Angulo, then shane retires
    Floyd-Martinez


    If pac faces martinez then 154 is fair and its a huge challenge. I would put pac as the underdog for the first time since facing DLH. 150 is too low for martinez. I wont blame pac for not wanting to face martinez, I just dont want no 150 bull****. 154 or take on a different opponent, berto or whoever if mayweather dont want it
     
  7. timmyjames

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    pac can't defend his 154 title at 154?
     
  8. bonds

    bonds Active Member Full Member

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    No there are no other divisions but there are tons of fights with a much greater size disparity.

    Is there a bigger size difference between a 195 cruiser and a 205 heavy than a 220 heavy and a 300 heavy just because they are in different divions?
     
  9. time

    time Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Personally i dont think its smart for guys weighing about 147 fightnight to jump into a ring with opponents close to 170 fight night so im not going to give out if it doesnt happen. Pac is barely a WW and sergio is barely a MW. It would be a great fight but im not gona give out if it doesnt happen as they are 2 classes apart.
     
  10. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    iirc martinez said the lowest he can go is 156. and pac should vacate his belt coz he's really small for that weight and should go back to 147 or even fight at 140. there are still good fights there.
     
  11. sweetray

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    Mike tyson is as tall as Margarito but has more volume than Margo.
    According to your logic, Mike Tyson is not too big to fight Pacquiao.
     
  12. bonds

    bonds Active Member Full Member

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    he can come in at whatever he wants. there is no minimum limit for him im pretty sure it will be a lot harder and more draining for martinez to make weight.
     
  13. timmyjames

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    dibella stated they would fight pac at 154...it's all over this site and at the scene


    if pac can't defend at 154 he should vacate, and get that little * next his name clarifying that bogus title
     
  14. bonds

    bonds Active Member Full Member

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    Is Margarito too big for Pac? How much bigger is Martinez than Margarito?
     
  15. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You made the mistake of grouping Margarito and Harrison in the same league as Martinez.

    Those guys are big with very little skill. Martinez isn't actually that big a middleweight, but he is still alot physically bigger than Pac with skill level up there with the A-classers.

    There's a reason that old cliche exists: "A good big man usually beats a good small man". Pac v Margs and Haye v Harrison/Valuev are the exception rather than the rule.