Why is Martinez too big for Pac?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bonds, Nov 22, 2010.


  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What is more impressive, Donaire beating Montiel or Donaire beating Chris Arreola?

    Who is more skilled, Montiel or Arreola?

    Pac didnt beat the most skilled guy out there but Margo is a solid fighter, a former champ who had 17lb on Pac, much more impressive than Pac beating on the likes of Bradley.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Why are you so ****ing dumb?? Go open your eyes.
     
  3. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Let sergio fight chad dawson first....
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Are you friggin serious with that question? WHy is Martinez too big? You have a good set or workiong eyes right? Now lets test the brain. Look, if they fight, it'sa because of Pac's warrior mentality, but if they do not, no one should blame Pac for not fighting this guy who's much bigger then he is.

    I mean, FFS, Pac weighed in at what, 148, for a 154 title fight? And now he needs to fight the MW champ of the world? ****er's still a small WW!! :patsch

    The HW comparison isn't apt BTW. It's a stretch on your part.
     
  5. bonds

    bonds Active Member Full Member

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    It is funny how many ppl are gettting so defensive here about me "wanting" him to fight Martinez when that was not the point.

    My point was simply asking why is Martinez too big when he is essentially the same size as the guy he just fought.And i wasnt hearing anything about Margarito being too big for Pac before. Martinez was 5'10 167 and Margarito was about 5'11 168 or so they are essentially the same size.

    Telling Martinez go fight a cruiserweight or whomever isnt an answer to what im asking.

    If Martinez came into the ring at 5'10 167 why is he too big when the same size Margarito wasn't?
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He won't fight Martinez because Martinez has fast hands good movement, isn't there to be hit and can counter. Martinez is no bigger than Margo but isn't a sitting duck and is skilled that's the real reason why the fight won't happen.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol: Get this into your head, Martinez is NOT the same size as Margarito. Your whole promise is shot to **** becasue of that little tidbit. Anyone can see the size difference with Sergio and Margarito already. Martinez is much thicker and wider on his upper body. Ands said he probably cannot go below 156, while Margarito made 150 with ease. That shows they aren't the same size. Now quit trolling, people are telling you exactly why this fight isn't necessary for Pac.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch No bigger than Margarito? Are you that ****in stupid too? You can't see the size difference in the bodies of Margarito (who can make 150) and Sergio (who's much broader up top and cannot go below 156 - his words.)

    You're asking a fighter who weighed 148 in a JrMW fight to fight the MW Champion of the world. Go ask your coward hero to fight ANYONE...other than a LW...:patsch
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The simplicity in posts that most posters seem to have these days is nasueating and annoying. Good luck fighting the fight! :deal
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Mother****er I'm not calling Pac a coward for not fighting Martinez. I don't throw that word around when describing fighters like you do. I'm saying Martinez is no bigger it's just that he's a stylistic nightmare for Pac and that's the real reason why the fight won't happen.
     
  11. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Martinez is a stylistic nightmare for EVERYBODY.

    Including Mayweather.

    But Pac was under 150 in his last fight.

    Be realistic.

    The only one that ran his mouth about the fight is Mayweather, yet again he receives a free pass for his obvious ***** moves.
     
  12. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree on the Pac stuff. It's absurd to expect Pac to fight a natural middleweight like Martinez.

    Judging by the width of Martinez's shoulders and back-- two features you correctly mentioned-- it wouldn't shock me if he could campaign at LHW.
     
  13. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Martinez is a very good bigger fighter that is just as mobile and just as fast as Pac so the size difference would be too much.
     
  14. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love watching Sergio as much as the next guy-- hell, he's got to be the greatest Spaniard (via Argentina) to ever lace 'em up-- but he's not as fast as Pac.
     
  15. Doc

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    Why because pac faces top prime opponents that are bigger then him..laughable... you know like old prime odlh weight drained... cotton coming off a career ending KO... clottey the turtle defense guy who didn't fight at all.... and recently a no skilled mummy who was inactive for 2 years coming off a KO loss..

    You know great fighters like that with popular names...

    Martinez won't happen reach and arum got bigger plans for pac like a prime 40 year old mosely.