Why is Mosley rated so high, he hasn't beaten an elite in years..

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  1. mexican legend

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    Cotto had trouble making weight, Margarito was fighting at guy who weighed 170 pounds in the ring, Mayweather is defensive minded and doesn't get hit cleanly. Tyson is a heavyweight and not too much heavyweights have great chins. Chin is still **** or Lazcano is a knockout artist
    With huge power. A small guy like that shouldn't hurt you.
     
  2. Scar

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    Your information is severely lacking there pal, in boxing regardless of size if you get caught without seeing a punch coming then you are bound to hit the canvas or get hurt, that's typical in boxing regardless of weight or who the hell you are. Did you box?, if you did you would know about this without the need for me to explain to you, hit the gym and try it out, typing and being stubborn about a very stupid opinion behind the comfort of a PC is very easy.

    Who told you that not many heavyweights have great chins?, I could name you a LIST of heavyweights with insane abilities to take punches and you hinting that Tyson might not have a great chin because he's a heavyweight is pathetic.

    You mention the Lazcano fight because you clearly haven't seen more and Sopcast was kind enough for you now. The Lazcano fight was Hatton coming off a KO loss which could be mentally affective and disturbing to any fighter, a KNOCKDOWN could discourage a fighter for a while let alone a vicious KO like the one he's coming back from and that could have played a major role in his last fight. Even his performance was **** poor compared to before against a mediocre opponent like Lazcano.
     
  3. mexican legend

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    Great question, I know which fighters turned down offers to not fight Margarito like your boy Mayweather. I don't know why he didn't fight the other guys. Ask his manager about that. Also don't hold that win in high praise then even if he had that belt since you say yourself he is a limited fighter. By the way Margarito is better than that scrub and aint that limited like him. Baldomir couldn't beat Cotto like the way Margarito did.
     
  4. Scar

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    Ask his manager that?, sad attempt right there. Why don't you ask Mayweather's manager why he didn't fight Margarito or just go ask Mayweather. Here's a hint: Check out Margarito's accomplishments and compare them with beating the undisputed champion for Baldomir and tell me if there is anything bigger in terms of accomplishments there. At least I made it easier instead of giving a semi-rude poor reply.

    How would you know Baldomir couldn't beat Cotto the way Margarito did?, like not many expected Margarito to even beat Cotto let alone in the way he did. Your prediction doesn't produce any result and your knowledge of the sport as a whole doesn't help back it up either, sorry but that's the truth.

    Why the use of insults to describe Baldomir?, did he insult your mother or something? :lol:, in terms of skills I don't rate Margarito way higher than Baldomir and anyone with eyes can see those.

    How many losses did Margarito avenge exactly and how many offers is he getting recently to avenge them?, also what has Margarito exactly accomplished the time Mayweather made a move to Welterweight to be considered a serious threat based on accomplishments?, media-hype aside please. :good
     
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    Yes, I box a little bit but we moved away from the gym I was going to. Some heavyweights have good chins but most lack great chins since guys hit harder at that weight. Some people have good chins and some people don't. It's obvious Ricky doesn't have a good chin. Like I said if a little guy was able to wobble him you don't have a good chin. I don't care if he was coming off a loss. That doesn't explain his chin.
     
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    Dropped only twice in 45 fights and stopped only once against one of the greatest fighter of this era and P4P #1 for obvious reasons yet he has a horrible chin.

    Great logic you have there, Margarito also has a glass chin for being wobbled by Santos then. You just brought up a new fact to the boxing public and I'm enjoying it. :good
     
  7. mexican legend

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    My god, if you don't rank Margarito higher than Baldomir than their is no point of arguing with especially if you think he has a chance to beat Margarito or Cotto. Keep bringing up Baldomir has the linear belt like that makes him a great fighter. Baldomir is **** and why are you praising him for? I know for a fact the Mayweather offer was legit and he turned him down. Mayweather choosed Baldomir over Margarito for a reason. Who is more of a threat and be honest? Baldomir or Margarito?
     
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    Santos was 170 in the ring. Mayweather and Hatton were almost at the same weight. Nice try.
     
  9. Scar

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    You failed to answer my question man, where the hell do you see me promoting Baldomir as an ATG?, why the hell are you putting words in mouth instead of answering actual questions I left you?

    You honestly rated Margarito as #1 when Baldomir beat the official undisputed champion in Judah and #1?, what the hell are you smoking?, I'm not discussing boxing ability but accomplishments here and even in boxing ability both Baldomir and Margarito have their flaws. Reread my post and answer the many questions I left you, feel free to say "I don't know" yet again if you don't and this discussion can be easily closed to avoid further embarrassment.

    Of course Margarito was a bigger threat but who was #1 and the man to beat in the division?, who at the time accomplished far more and was in a way bigger position to force fighters to call him out, Margarito or Baldomir?, based on POSIITION AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE DIVISION. After you answer this PLEASE answer the questions I left you above.
     
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    Still based on your logic anyone that gets wobbled has a bad chin so **** off with the "nice try" bull****. :good
     
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    When did I say Margarito was the number one guy when Baldomir beat Judah? You aint answering my questions either buddy and ignoring what I originally said to ese when you replied to my post. I said I know he had the Ring Magazine belt but everyone knows he is a shitty fighter. Then you came here and said it is a great belt and I know that. Then you brought up Margarito for no reason. My point was he is a shitty fighter period.
     
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    Anyone with a shitty chin idiot. Santos was way bigger than Margarito in the ring. Hatton and Mayweather weighted the same. :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
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    I didn't bring Margarito for no reason, he was related to the discussion and mentioned that Floyd ducked him, so yeah he was going to be involved regardless because the discussion revolves around a division he is in and he plays a major role in it.

    I answered your question numerous times already and yet again you answered NONE of mine, not even in that post of yours. Baldomir is not a better fighter than Margarito, I never said he is but also said that this discussion based on accomplishments in the division back when Mayweather signed to fight Baldomir instead of Margarito. Now go back to my previous threads and answer the many questions I left you.
     
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    Still that means nothing judging by your claims, you claimed that "wobbled is wobbled he has a shitty chin" and that's exactly what happened to both Margarito and Santos in that fight meaning both have shitty chins according to your logic. Margarito made the weight successfully and didn't look that small in comparison to Santos on fight night and the fight is right there for you as a visible proof. Floyd Mayweather moved up and fought DLH, what was DLH's weight again in comparison to Mayweather's on fight night?, yet Mayweather took DLH's power very well, does that mean Mayweather's chin is far better than Margarito's?, see who the real idiot with pathetic logic is?

    And I'm not saying Margarito has a better chin that Mayweather either so don't twist this topic into something totally different, that was an example to prove how pathetic your logic is, I know you would anyway and completely ignore the many questions I left you yet again. :good Babysitting you never felt better.

    "A FIGHTER WOBBLES HE HAS A HORRIBLE CHIN!", and you call yourself a boxing fan yet admitted that you don't even know how to answer a few questions regarding a fighter you claim you support in Margarito. If that's not blind temporary nuthugging for a fighter simply to feed the hate for another then I don't know what is. If you're a true fan of his you would answer the questions easily.
     
  15. mexican legend

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    Bull****.
    You said he was a shot against him and that is complete bull****.
    Retype them because I dont want to go back and find all of them.