Why is Mosley rated so high, he hasn't beaten an elite in years..

Who did I say was shot against who?, drunk or something man?, I don't even see the word SHOT in that post of mine.

No I won't retype them, you had the decency to respond to them whilst COMPLETELY twisting the topic without even paying attention to them yet want me to type again?, the posts are up there, whenever you wish feel free to reply.

 

LOL, I keep saying he was hurt by a smaller man and you keep bringing up bull**** logic. Listen carefully, Mayweather never gets hit cleanly since he shoulder rolls so you implying he has a chin is bull****. Remember his logic is hit and not get hit. Some fighters have good chins and others dont. I never implied that wobbled is wobbled when guys who are bigger than you hurt you and you are stunned. I implied he got wobbled by a smaller guy. A guy who he was supposed to look good against who is smaller than him stunned him. That was my point.

 

Trying to reply he has a shot against him. Write your questions down bro because I dont want to back and answer all of them.

 

So you're saying that Mayweather never took a flush shot his entire career and DLH didn't catch him with a stiff HARD hook in that fight? , now you want to teach me about Mayweather when you can't even answer questions regarding a fighter you claim you support. Sure man, thanks for the failing attempt.

So what if a guy smaller than him stunned him?, you think that never happens in boxing?, when you get caught with a punch you don't see coming you can get stunned, that's normal. You're saying he should be made of steel and take everything thrown at him because the guy he's fighting is "smaller" than him?, that's another bull**** logic pal. In boxing EVERYTHING is possible, that's one thing the history in boxing constantly proves over and over regardless of size, as I said if you did box indeed you won't need me to explain all of this to you.

 

There you have them.

 

Mayweather has a decent chin but that remains to be seen since he never fights on the inside. If a smaller guy who hits you flush hurts you I classify that has a crappy chin. Why is a smaller guy who doenst hit that hard should be able to stun you? Lazcano aint a big puncher and he wobbled Ricky. Now he took decent shots from Kostya yet why was Lazcano able to hurt him? Does Lazcano hit harder than Kostya? Nope he doesnt have a good chin period.

 

Same questions were asked before he fought Kostya, Hatton was floored by McGee and people thought he will get KO'd against Kostya simply based on that fact, pretty much like you're saying right here then again they were proved wrong and he took SOLID stiff punches from Kostya and was still there. Fact is the KO against Mayweather affected him and that happens to some fighters yet others it doesn't happen to, not all are the same. As I said again for the third time, if you box you will understand that, I'm not going to donate money to you to head to a boxing gym now that I have tried everything to explain to you. If you don't want to understand it then that's your opinion and is basically a waste of time at this point especially when your comments are slightly noobish.

Another proof you don't know jack**** about Mayweather and Margarito combined now, Mayweather had A LOT of exchanges in fights early in his career. If anything he was criticised for exchanging punches rather than using movement and defense as he was supposed to early in his career, have you seen any of them?, obviously not, yet have the decency to hate someone you hardly know much about, pretty much like nuthugging someone you don't know much about either as this discussion is slowly yet obviously proving and exposing.

 

I am gonna reply to your questions one at a time so hold up. I will start from the first one.

Margarito lost a lot of fights early since he barely had an amatuer career. Do you want him to avenge thoses losses too? He will fight Williams later but first most likely fight Mosley and Clottey first. Mayweather hasnt done **** at the welterweight division at that point and at least Margarito had a belt and fought world class fighters at the weight class. Margarito was trying to find fighters to fight him Mosley, De la hoya, Mayorga etc. but they didnt want him.

 

Mayweather was the #1 fighter in the Welterweight division and it only took him three fights to accomplish that officially and publicly recognized for and approved of whether you want to accept it or not is a sign of denial at it's very best.

I asked you a question, how many losses did Margarito avenge?, I don't really want bull**** excuses, just give me an answer please. Also, that's bull**** that Margarito was trying to fight DLH/Mosley and Mayorga but they didn't want him, where is the proof surrounding such claims?, it's only Mosley who said he needed more fights and this was when he was 35, I'm talking about undisputed champion prime Mosley who lost to Forrest back then.

Again I repeat, HOW MANY LOSSES HAS HE AVENGED?, simple question with a one word answer.

 

2. DLH, Mosley, Mayorga, and Mayweather passed offers to fight Margarito. Margarito wanted fights but they didnt want to fight him. Not Mayweather's fault that he doesnt have a big name but he could of fought him and see if he had the goods. Funny thing, wasnt Mayweather complaining also that he couldnt get the big fights when he was at junior lightweight and lightweight?

 

Yet he dominated both divisions and didn't rely on media hype, major difference here so please don't compare because it's not even close. Only a few weeks ago did Margarito capture the #1 spot in a division he has been in since 1994. Seeing guys like Cotto/Mayweather/DLH/Mosley/Spinks/Mayorga/Forrest/Baldomir/Judah capture that way before him leaves a lot of questions.

 

3. Well thats it really depends how you see it. Margarito had a belt longer and faced world class opposition in the process. Baldomir beat only Judah and it was a good win but Judah should be ashamed in losing to him. Now based on how much damage they do I will say Margarito is far more of a punishing fighter than Baldomir and Baldomir was never a elite welterweight despite the fact he had the Ring Magazine belt.

 

Word of mouth that he asked DLH for a match he said no. Mosley did decline an offer according to Arum. Mayorga was word of mouth as well. To answer your last question zero but Baldomir had a **** load of losses too and how come you didnt want him to avenge those as well when people claim he was the king???

 

Again bull**** and twisting rubbish, the way you see it is pathetic when it comes down to a discussion regarding official results.

Baldomir beat the WBC/WBA/IBF Champion in Zab Judah, you want to claim that Margarito having the WBO even though accomplishing nothing worth mentioning can be compared to that?, pure nuthuggery there and in pathetic obvious fashion pal.

The reason why Baldomir kept the WBC and dropped the rest is because he didn't want to pay the fees required to officially get ahold of them, that doesn't change ****. That's like saying Tszyu dropped all titles when he was active and for doing it he only had a "Ring Magazine" belt but other champions were around, would you say Vivian Harris(the media hype back then thanks to Mayweather being in the division who also accomplished jack****) was a more threatening opponent?, based on media hype, of course but on accomplishments?, NOTHING. Very similar case here.

Fact is there was a #1 fighter and undisputed champion for YEARS therefore making any other titlist a paper champion at best, that's how it's officially looked at and rated. Pretty much how Gatti was considered a paper champion at 140 because an undisputed and officially best was active.

Keep your opinion out of a discussing regarding how things are looked officially in the professional ranks, your opinion means nothing, I seek an official back-up form you without pathetic twisting attempts please. You're not even answering any question properly so far so go on.

 

True but if he fought Mayweather/DLH/Mosley/Mayorga he would have had his opptunity.