Why is Mosley rated so high, he hasn't beaten an elite in years..

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  1. mexican legend

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    Failed. I am talking about welterweight since we are comparing the resumes. Nice try.
     
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  2. TFFP

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    What the hell is the big debate here?

    Every man and his dog knows Mosley would beat seven shades of **** out of Hatton, surely. Look at how each dealt with Collazo for ****s sake. Hatton is and was garbage at 147.
     
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  3. mexican legend

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
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  4. eze

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    No its not? :lol::lol:

    Judah had not won in two years and was inactive for a year prior to that. How can you even dare to rate it as an equal win?



    The Baldomir victory at the time WAS FAR GREATER than a Quitana win. There is nothing you can say or do to try to spin that a Quitana victory when Cotto beat him was better than a Baldomir victory. They fought Quitana because he was inexperienced and it would be Cottos first fight at WW.
     
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  5. mexican legend

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    Bingo.
     
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  6. eze

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    Equal to a Vargas win is what you are talking about?
     
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  7. mexican legend

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    I am talking about right now. Judah was coming off a loss to Mayweather to a bum named Baldomir. It is the same to me. :lol:
     
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  8. eze

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    The debate here is mexican legend says Cotto became the man of the WW division after beating Mosley. Which I dont see how considering Mosley is a nothing like the fighter he use to be and hasn't beaten an elite since pre Forrest.
     
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  9. mexican legend

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    I am talking about welterweight and Hatton has no better wins than Mosley. :shock:
     
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    So its the same to you, even when the tables are absolutely in Mayweathers favor? I thought you were trying to be fair on this debate but I only made a fool out of myself to even believe so, but then again you made yourself look like a tool right now clearly admitting to being bias even when you know you are wrong.
     
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  11. eze

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    They have the same win, which is Collazo. Mosley fought better but both are still a win.

    Mosley back in the day in his prime has better wins but that was in his prime. Not now, when he decided to go to back to 147 after being at 154 for a bit.
     
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  12. TFFP

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    The welterweights never had a "man"

    Mayweather might have been on paper, and he was probably the closest, but unfortunately Baldomir will always be remember as little more than being in the right time and the right place. So while he was lineal, he still didn't really set down a benchmark to say he was the man by actually fighting any of the top fighters.

    Cotto never got his shot at Mayweather, never fought Williams and now lost to Margarito so we can't hold him up as the man either.
     
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  13. mexican legend

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    It is the same. I dont think Judah coming off a loss is different than a guy who has been inactive but had all that time to work out in the process.
     
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  14. eze

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    Let me ask you this, is a Baldomir victory better than a Quitana victory? (at the respected times)
     
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  15. mexican legend

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    Which means Mosley is more suitable at 147, the weight that they fought at. I think Hatton struggling against Collazo proves that. I think you saying it is the same is bull**** because Hatton should have never been a welterweight period. Hatton < Mosley.
     
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