Why is Pac rated higher than JMM at 130lbs???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Biggame, Aug 23, 2007.


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  1. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hey you're the one who made a big deal out of it, Pac beating this guy is no big deal and thats exactly why he's rated higher..and while JMM struggled to beat Marco..well, just accept it..Pac will always be rated higher than these 2 now until he losses to any of them..
     
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  2. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    those wins featherweight to lw did enough to put pac above jmm weather pac's first lw is against em you must look at the bigger resume wtf! jmm just went in the 130pnds and you credit him that fast? what a lucky son of a gun jmm is!
     
    mad_takamura, Aug 26, 2007
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  3. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not much and he shouldnt be fighting Barrera, he should be fighting JMM or Guzman or Soto. Whats so big about fighting Rocky Juarez? He is 5'3 tall, he stands no chance against the great counterpuncher in JMM.
     
    maciek4, Aug 26, 2007
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  4. runnynose

    runnynose Member Full Member

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    The revenge/grudge angle is what's being played up by the promoters and that always sells, that's why. No matter what we say about belts and ABC rankings, pitting Pac and MAB again is a very bankable event. Logic may dictate differently but that fight is what will sell, so it will happen, and it has to happen now before another event of any kind intervenes.

    Now as to the topic of this thread. Pac isn't exactly without a belt. He has only a regional belt at the moment but he's a de facto or some kind of people's world champ. Popularity is still a factor. It's hard to explain heh heh. JMM is great and a veritable future ATG too. Both he and Pac deserve the highest rankings @ 130lbs, and to settle the question of who should rank higher than the other, thanks to the revenge/grudge factor, they will likely face each other next, granting they both win their respective assignments for now. :good
     
    runnynose, Aug 26, 2007
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  5. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    I agree w/you 100% here!!
     
    Biggame, Aug 26, 2007
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  6. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    JMM has lost to either of them either...and if this didn't go over your head you would gotten what I meant like Maciek4. He shouldn't be fighting MAB, he should be fighting someone like JMM, or Soto, or Guzman, but instead. Same w/JMM...he shouldn't be fighting Juarez:nono Now my point about PAC is what has he done at 130lbs? What has he accomplished, and pls don't bring up that International belt or whatever it is! He's really done nothing special. He's fought smaller guys,,and guys coming off of losses. Surely not special and once again what is he doing...he's fighting a guy fresh off of a loss! I guess that's all you have to do to be #1 at 130lbs. Not fight anyone of note although amazingly fighting MAB is a start, but like EM before him MAB was just dethroned, and who wants him next?... PAC ofcourse!! It's a money thing and an opportunity for MAB to revenge himself, but it still doesn't warrant Pac being #1 at the weight, and again he's still fighting a guy coming off of a loss, and again he accomplishes nothing!!

    He's done nothing impressive there, and w/his superman status that you guys give him, he should have atleast fought a champ, or try and challenge one. He's content earning money fighting meaningless fights while you guys make him out to be the best in a division he's fought no-one in!
     
    Biggame, Aug 26, 2007
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  7. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yep. that's why most unbiased observers put pac on the top of 130 and not influenced by who's got those alphabet belts.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Aug 26, 2007
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  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    If you take away his upcoming fight against a shot Barrera and his 2 ko's of Morales and you take away JMM's win over a shot Barrera.

    Then at 130 their resumes look like this

    PAcquiao : Solis, Velasquez, Larios

    JMM : Noone
     
    PH|LLA, Aug 26, 2007
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  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    :lol: i bet the threadstarter is still not convinced with that explanation.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Aug 26, 2007
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  10. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    1st off I never said MAB is shot so there goes most of your point right there. it's these other clowns taking away credit from JMM I'm addressing. they say he's shot or aging yet they're are ready to give PAC all the credit in the world if he beats MAB w/the exception of Maciek4! I said EM is/was shot! If you have been keeping up you would see that I posed a question to all of them about it! Why don't you ans that question!!

    2nd if we go by your theory about taking bouts away depending on who's what than all you have for Pac is a bum/journeyman in Valazquez.

    Larios- moved up 2 weight classes for there fight

    Solis- moved up in weight for there fight

    I guess this would mean that neither would have proven anything at 130lbs now wouldn't it!!

    I'll be waiting for ans to that question!!
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    Biggame, Aug 26, 2007
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  11. ravtrav

    ravtrav Active Member Full Member

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    When It Comes Down To It, Pac Knocks Manuela The **** Out!
     
    ravtrav, Aug 26, 2007
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  12. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    assumption, assumptiom, assumption!!:nono

    Jmm takes the rematch!!
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    Biggame, Aug 26, 2007
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  13. boxing_report

    boxing_report Upset-Minded Full Member

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    :good
     
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  14. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    another asumption
     
    mad_takamura, Aug 27, 2007
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  15. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    Very true, but more likely to happen!!
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    Biggame, Aug 27, 2007
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