Why is Pac rated higher than JMM at 130lbs???

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  1. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    MAB is shot?

    So how much credit will you give Pac when he beats, and how much more will you give JMM if MAB beats Pac?
     
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    We aren't talking about an up and coming fighter in JMM,..he's an established fighter who's rebounded from that BS **** lost to John, and has now beat the #1 guy at 130lbs in MAB!! Pac lost to EM who before hand had lost his title at 130lbs to MAB, and because he's beaten a shot, EM, Larios, and 2 other unproven fighters he resume is better. I know it's hard to compare 1 fight to 5, but when you're establashed like JMM, and you beat the #1 guy you don't just bump someone in front of them. Belts don't mean nothing, and we're not talking about JMM jumping Pac on the P4P list, but in the division it should be JMM!!

    That's all I'm saying. JMM beat the man and PAC has beaten the guy who used to be the man, a couple other guys not worthy of mentioning!!

    Fighting will ultimately decide, but as of now it should be JMM!!
     
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  3. Biggame

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  4. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Buddy Pac was already the number 1 guy at 130 even when MAB is holding the WBC belt. :D Don't get confused. We are talking of the P4P ring rating. Of course when we talk of the WBC rating JMM is #1 because he is the belt holder. :lol:

    As I said it is more on who's more established . . . . as in the quality of oppositions.
     
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  5. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so jmm beat mab once at 130. fine. if you consider this a big win then you should also consider pac's 2 wins over em as big wins so pac should be number one. he's been around much longer asn has a better record at 130.

    pac is 5-1 with 4 ko's at 130
    jmm is 1-0 with 0 ko's at 130

    the belt makes jmm number 1?


    please.
     
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  6. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    Quality of opposition:rofl What opposition???

    Yes Pac beat EM, but MAB beat him at 130lbs also, and he beat him while he was he was champ!! Beating MAB at 126lbs doesn't mean **** at 130lbs:nono

    I still don't see what's so quality about Pac's 130lbs opposition!! He's had more fights, but that's about it, and certainly not enough! EM was long gone when he beat him, and Larios was coming from 2 weightclasses up, Valasquez???, Solis???? I rate that as fair opposition, not good:nono

    How will you rank JMM if MAB beats PAC?
     
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  7. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    JMM one opponent is better than all of Pac's combined especially when you consider that 2 were unproven, 2 wins against a shot fighter who has lost 5 of his last 6 fights, and 1 coming up 2 weightclasses!
     
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  8. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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  9. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    That one opponent was already TKO'd by Pacquiao in a fight he was winning 10 rounds to 1 before the stoppage.

    Sure, JMM beat MAB when he was holding the belt, but by then MAB was not coming off of a Morales UD or a Fana KO or even a Peden UD. He was coming off of two very unflattering bouts with Rocky Juarez, who himself was MOVING UP from 126 for his very first fight.

    Then MAB picked JMM who was MOVING UP from 126 for his very first fight. Pacquiao's two wins over Morales, combined with his earlier dominant TKO of Barrera beat Marquez's lone win at 130 over an even less prime (but not shot) Barrera.
     
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  10. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    You my friend are corny, and who will be P4P #1 at the end of the year:huh
     
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  11. Biggame

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    I don't agree but I can live w/it!! Pac's when over MAB at 126lbs means nothing at 130lbs, and Pac resume is less than stellar at the weight! Ppl take and overrate the EM wins regardless of tha fact that the only guy EM managed to beat in his last 6 fights is Pac which doesn't say much about Pac!!

    I think JMM beats Pac next time around baring Pac gets past MAB this time around!!
     
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  12. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    It will be Floyd, and no I don't know what Pac will do so tell me what this editor says!!
     
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  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    You should be asking that for JMM? :lol:

    What quality oppositions? The MAB who was already pummeled to submission by Pac 3 years ago and who barely survived Juarez? :huh

    Manuel Medina
    Marcos Lincona
    Derrick Gainer
    Orlando Salido
    Victor Polo
    Terdsack Jandaeng
    Lost to Cris John
    Terdsack Jandaeng
    Jim Rex Jaca

    . . . are these the quality opponents that will put JMM up to a NO 1 P4P position? :roll:

    I was trying to give you a logical explanation but you're just too dumb to understand.

    So just get the **** out here . . . shithead. :yep :hi:
     
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  14. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this has got to be one of the most stupid things i've ever seen. mab was blown out by pac. sure it was at 126 but still he got beaten to a bloody pulp until his corner can take no more. jmm chewed up what pac spat out.

    and what did mab do to deserve to be better than 3 matches against morales? a win over fana or a contested win over juarez? or maybe you think mab is so great at 130 because he beat morales? well, you just said that morales was long shot before pac fought him.

    so mab wins by decision and he gets all the credit in the world, pac ko's him twice and loses to him one and he gets nothing because EM is shot?

    so tell me, if both pac and jmm win their next matches, pac will surely be over jmm in your rankings right?

    because he beat mab who is better that pac's last five fights combined and jmm beat juarez who was beaten by mab twice.

    do you agree with this biggame?
     
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  15. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    So how sure are you shithead? :D :lol:

    You already know what's gong to happen at the end of this year?
    :rasta
     
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