Why is Pacquiao any different than Mosley, Williams, or Margarito?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LukeO, Dec 31, 2009.


  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Why is this most recent attempt to discredit a challenger garnering so much attraction from the Mayweather cult?
    I am beginning to think the super fans of Mayweather honestly believe Manny Pacquiao is an indestructible torrent of power and steroids.

    Where did this illusion come from?
    Being able to take Cotto's punches in the fight? (ruptured ear drum and busted up face)

    Oscar De La Hoya fought at 130, and maintained his chin up to 160.
    That is a 30 pound difference.
    How on earth is Manny super human for retaining his good chin up to 145?
    Why wasn't there a huge investigation into DLH for being able to take punches from Mosley/Vargas/Mayorga/Trinidad?

    I just don't understand the argument for it.
    We have Manny back in 05 complaining about a blood test, then we have him doing it again in 2009.
    He is consistent, he has never brought up a phobia of needles or a fear of giving blood, just a statement that "it weakens me".

    Where is the consistency with anything Mayweather says?
    He rips into opponents and discredits them when it helps him, and builds them up when they need to be sold.
    Check out his video on why we "should all order the judah fight because judah is a champion and even though he lost to baldomir this is going to be a great fight for the championship(that baldomir didn't pay the sanctioning fees for)"
    He then went on to say "split decisions don't count... those mean nothing"
    Even though his big win against DLH is a split decision.
    Everything is convenient when it lines up FOR floyd, then once it's not in his favor, he has to make a billion hypocritical excuses.

    I applaud Brian Kenny and RA Rugged man for standing up to Mayweather and trying to force some honesty out of him.

    Mayweather is a boxing Don king. A salesman for a bad product. Right now his current product is "You don't want to see me fight Pacquiao, he's a cheater"
    Same product he was pitching when Mosley's name came up.
    Same product he was selling to not fight Margarito.

    Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it, and you are repeating the same mistake of letting Floyd off the hook against a real challenge.

    It's ok, Manny stole fighter of the era/decade out from under him anyway, so really Floyd has to take a back seat regardless, and his next fight has to be Manny caliber opposition or he will clearly be considered the biggest 'what if' we have ever seen.

    I just have 1 challenge for any of the fans who are on the fence, or think Pacquiao is already guilty.
    Go watch his fights again, go pay attention to his in and out movement, his hand speed, and his angle punching.
    Go look at his heart, and his willingness to trade.
    Go watch him learn how to use his right hand, and instantly put himself up to another level.
    Watch him lose to Morales, watch him eek out a decision vs Marquez, watch him have to chase a mentally defeated Cotto, watch him have to punch Diaz a billion times to finally stop the fight, watch him strafe an old DLH, watch him expose Hatton's defense, watch him train his ass off. Watch all of this **** again, and tell me somehow you think this guy is cheating.
    If you really think after looking at his career that he is on any performance enhancing drugs, then you have a lot of explaining to do for a **** ton of fighters that came before him.
     
  2. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think Pac beats none of those guys so I dont have a clue.
     
  3. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pac beat oscar with boxing skills no drug can give him that


    he hit oscar for 8 straight rounds non stop wheres thsi superman
     
  4. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Happy New Year LUKEO!:happy
    It has been stated by a number of experts that the amount of blood taken for a sample is relatively small and would have no effect on performance. Keep in mind that the same random test are given to all the atheletes that compete in the Olimpics. $40 mill. agree to the test and this is all a moot point. Make sense? Or am I just riding PBF nuts?
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Long thread that says NOTHING once again from you.

    Yes you are correct, everyone things that Pac cant be beat, and that is why all the Floyd fans want to see the fight, and all the *******s are happy that they are not going to fight.:oops:
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You're talking to a guy who has had at least 6 blood tests in the past 5 years.
    I know what it does, you don't need to be an expert if you've experienced it.
    Sometimes it bruises or makes your arm hard to bend, sometimes you do get light headed. Sometimes it's like nothing happened.
    Who are we to judge what it does to him? I know you aren't the authority on any of this ****.
    You're just a kid, with a biased opinion that comes from someone else.
    We have been over this.
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You comment on everything I say, how often do I chase you down and try to discredit you?
    Obviously you feel threatened by me, so you have to come in quick and get your little jab in about how I'm a huge pac fan and you're the unbiased boxing fan.

    Keep it up through, because after March, this is all just a huge pile of evidence about how much smarter I am than you.
    You stick close by, i'll lead you to the promise land.
     
  8. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    very well said bro :good:thumbsup
     
  9. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    I told you you where a kid. But Im the one who gets every thing from others:yep. You dont know how I based my opinion, so how did I get it from someone else. Do u live in the US? Steriods have been an issue for a while now. They are all over pro sports. So if I suspect pac Im a moron. Makes sense.:yep
     
  10. tepaltzin

    tepaltzin Guest

    I wonder how many other *******s read that with tears streaming down their eyes:think
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yeah, and you gave a **** about steroids before this 'scandal'

    Dude, you have no case for any argument, you're on a band wagon.
    Do you even know what a band wagon is?
    Do I need to really educate you on basic human thinking?
    How society works?
    How people are motivated, and how they think?
    You don't know any of this ****?!?!?

    I can seriously bring your intelligence level way up without much work, you'll be amazed how **** actually works, once you use some reason.
     
  12. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    A huge pile of evidence about how much smarter I am than you.:yep
    Hows that Pal. Most of this is subjective. Seriously pal I think your mildly ******ed. Its like trying to prove that Coke taste better than Pepsi. Pretty hard, unless your a little slow:yep
     
  13. calpnut

    calpnut P-NUT Full Member

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    Lukeo I KNOW YOU DONT THINK PAC-MAN CAN BEAT FLOYD....IF YOU DO THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO BO TESTED >>>
     
  14. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Luke,
    Go back and reread your posts. You sound a bit slow:yep
    Maybe I need to see a movie about boxing or watch an episode of South Park to figure out how society works :yep
     
  15. calpnut

    calpnut P-NUT Full Member

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    I think floyd got a good point......I dont see the big deal here.... if he's not dopeing then just take the test shut everybody up and then kick floyd butt....