Why is Pacquiao any different than Mosley, Williams, or Margarito?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LukeO, Dec 31, 2009.


  1. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You still have yet to explain where Floyd is in the right for accusing Manny Pacquiao of being on steroids without a shred of evidence?

    You're listing a bunch of regular negotiations that take place before every fight, and then you're bunching in an unprecedented outside organization be enlisted to curb internal speculation that an opponent is possibly "doping" or using PEDs.
    The speculation is unfounded, and is only being enhanced by the request for more strict drug testing, which imply Manny Pacquiao is taking a drug the NSAC is incapable of tracing, for the purpose of giving himself the edge in the fight... Cheating.

    It is not cheating to wear 10 or 8 oz gloves.
    It is not cheating to make sure your opponent makes weight(when he proved he would rather pay a fine than make weight)
    It is not cheating to manipulate the current sanctions to more favor you. If you have to go outside of the entire negotiation process to bring in an outside activity to question the honesty and legitimacy of another fighter, you're personally attacking the guy's credibility and legacy.

    It's an assault on a person's character to claim they are potential cheaters based on no prior evidence.

    Go ahead and lump the blood tests in with smaller gloves and weight, it'll be easy for you to reason it in your own head that way.

    Some of us are actually intelligent enough to grasp the context under which this drug test came up, the accusations are unfounded and completely speculation.

    If Manny Pacquiao requested that Floyd Mayweather undergo a psycho analysis because he thought he was fighting a liar and a cheater, do you think he could throw that into the contract with no opposition?
    It would be like "what are you trying to say? floyd is mentally unstable?"
    That is defamation, and everyone would go "what the hell?"

    But when you know enough about what is going on to actually figure this **** out, maybe you'll see what I'm talking about, instead of ramming your love for floyd mayweather down everyone's throats.
     
  2. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    So its a sin and against the law to ask for a simple blood test? the same Blood test that Floyd will be taking? What wrong with making sure that the playing field is being played fair by both pasrties?

    Fail!:lol:
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Great.
    So your guys whole argument is that Floyd agreed to Manny Pacquioa's stipulations... all of which are negotiated in every match up. But Manny wouldn't agree to floyd's brand new one.

    Got it.
    You have shown me exactly where your brain got stuck, and now you're in your little comfortable zone of protecting mayweather.

    Yeah, he really wants to fight Pacquiao, he's trying super hard to make it happen.
     
  4. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Fail!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Owned.
     
  5. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight would be signed if Pac would just take this little itty bitty test for **** sakes. Not to mention his rep put back in tact. The truth is, now that the seed is planted, people will always wonder if Pac was on juice if he continues to object to the random test requested. This is going to be his demise, and the more he stalls and throws lawsuits around, the worse it's looking on him. This **** is growing like a weed and he will never be looked at the same without taking this test.
     
  6. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Lukeo
    Tell me how Calzaghes legacy is better than PBF.
     
  7. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Mildly ******ed:yep
     
  8. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    On the contrary, anyone who blames Pac for this fight not coming to fruition can default to these facts, (since we all know how much you love facts) that PBF manufactured an unprecedented and unwarranted demand and perhaps these witch hunters will come to grip with their own failure to assign the blame to the guilty culprits.
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather isn't really discrediting Pacquiao. He's just asking for stricter drug testing to ensure fairness.
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    They are both undefeated against decent opposition.
    Calzaghe was more willing to fight, against better opposition later in his career.

    If Floyd fought and beat Manny, I would think his legacy was way more secure. Right now his most impressive wins (to me) are over corrales and the second castillo fight.
    I think Calzaghe beating hopkins is bigger than Floyd beating anyone he has faced.
    That's the biggest difference to me. The Hopkins win.
     
  11. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lance Armstrong was accused of steroids too. They had no evidence. But did he cry? No! He took the dammed tests and cleared his name. It's shame Manny won't do the same... and Lance only has one testicle.
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    So why is he doing it now, in 1 fight?
    He isn't petitioning the NSAC to fix the drug policy so all fights are fair, he is trying to get an outside agency to test just Pacquiao.
    That is a direct accusation.
     
  13. tepaltzin

    tepaltzin Guest

    What are you implying here?:lol:
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would be a witch hunt if Pacquiao wasn't being given a chance to vindicate himself. All he has to do is some drug testing to guarantee a fair fight, as much as it can be guaranteed.
     
  15. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I can only restate my central point and once again it's that the tests are unwarranted and unprecedented. These are facts that can't be disputed. There's no tangible reason way Pac should be forced into the responsibility of setting a precedence.

    I want to see the fight just as much as any boxing/sports fan but not at the expense of conceding logic and reasoning.