Why is Pacquiao willing to fight Loma instead of Crawford?

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  1. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Crawford beats him up and then stops Pacquiao.

    Loma beats Pacquiao by decision.


    Pacquiao don't want a real beating so he isn't fighting Crawford.
     
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  2. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do dislike Haymon. I also dislike his enemy (Jay-Z) as a boxing promoter.
     
  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s cool if you can acknowledge you have a bias against the man then fair enough. What’s your reason for hating Jay-z?
     
  4. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like Jay-Z as a rapper. However, I’m not too crazy about him as a person. I can’t put my finger on it, but something about Jay-Z seems real sinister.

    In about 30 years, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a hot young black actress starring in a movie along the lines of What’s Love Got To Do With It. Or to one day see that Jay-Z is wanted by the Feds for being a big time drug lord.

    Oh yeah, I am not too fond of the way he has completely ignored one of his seriously injured fighters...Daniel Franco.

    Jay-Z is terrible for boxing and anyone involved with him has suffered for it.
     
  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is an excellent rapper, in terms of his personality he seems ruthless. But I think in that industry you have to be, he has cut off a lot of the people who helped him but I think it’s coz they didn’t wanna evolve with him.

    Not sure about the Daniel franco situation coz I’ve never heard of him, however two people who have not suffered coz of a Jay-z in boxing was Miguel Cotto and Andre Ward both scored their career high pay day whilst with Jay.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    World wide recognition? Bullying tactics? Arum's advise?
     
  7. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jay-Z is ruthless. I used to be a big rap fan, during the golden Age of hip hop, so I fully understand how he industry works.

    Where do you get your boxing news from? The Daniel Franco issue is very recent.

    http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/21972068/boxing-dan-rafael-wish-list-2018

    http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/21445874/featherweight-daniel-franco-lucky-talking-right-now

    https://www.forbes.com/pictures/590b9cb231358e46e37021da/2-jay-z-810-million/#5d1e5ef06eaf

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/17/media/jay-z-beyonce-billion/index.html

    So tell me again how Jay-Z helps fighters. I’m listening.
     
  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never said jay-z helps all his fighters you said everyone has suffered with Jayz being in boxing and I said I know two who haven’t. Ward and Cotto, was I wrong?
     
  9. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Loma is smaller than Crawford, and dimensionwise, he's more Pac's size, as well as being an easier matchup. Lomachenko doesn't have much power, and Roach has realized that, while Pac still has some speed. It's definitely a winnable fight for Pac as long as he isn't drained too much by a catchweight.
     
  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol fair enough you obviously can’t admit when someone has spotted a flaw in your arguments.
     
  11. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto and Ward. You’re right.
    So did you read the articles I sent you?
     
  12. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    I rate Crawford but of the decent champs to ever hold a title at 140, which ones wouldn't you favor to unify the wasteland that Bud did?

    Mayweather, Bradley, Pac, Hatton, Cotto, Judah, Kosta - the list could go on forever. Yes, Crawford did what he had to do and looked good doing it but lets not pretend it was some sort of murderers row.
     
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  13. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It weren’t the murders row by any means, but GGG was in a crap division when he had 3 belts he never completely unified. Let’s not diminish the fact that Crawford did something no one has done in 10 years. He goes in the HOF off that alone, Loma is in a whack division at 130, only name there is Berchelt now that Davis has moved up. Let’s see if he becomes undisputed too.

    Crawford did what he had to do now the big challenge begins and that’s beating the likes of Thurman and Spence.
     
  14. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’ve read it, it was a cold thing that Jay-z did the least he could of done is publicised the gofundme like the young man fathers said.
     
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  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He was fortunate to unify in that there are usually reluctant champs who duck the biggest fights. Fortunately for him Indongo upset the apple cart twice and had the cojones to fight him. Your Quillins, Saunders and Cotto's didn't have quite the same testicular fortitude.

    It's politics that prevents undisputed champs being established rather than ability of the sports marquee names in my opinion.