Why is Povetkin's victory a TKO?

That was true. Lennox was standing on his feet, when he didn't beat the count.

Very big difference.

 

No, I haven't heard them saying about pulling him out. But I think it was Eddie Hearn who brought this story first

 

Just you wait. Give Fast Car Eddie some time.

 

The Knock Out of the year.

 

Whyte vs Browne is listed as a KO and that was waved off and there is no ten counts nowadays, the referee normally waves it off when it gets to 6 or 7

 

Nah, it was a slip. Whyte crossed his legs the wrong way.

 

I forgot Hearn mentioned it in his interview. It seems Povetkin's team were just checking he was OK after the knock downs and it's somehow been made into his team were about to pull him out.

 

If a man is left unconscious on the canvas, dribbling from his mouth not able to get up. With an oxygen mask brought in. Then it is a KO in the eyes of most people.

It is more of a KO than if someone is knocked down for a second time, and just gets up too slowly just after the count of 10.

Povetkin should be given his KO in my view. That is a classic KO win.

 

It's the rules. If a fighter is unable to continue, and the ref decides a count isn't even needed, it's a TKO. The ref decides to stop the fight, the fighter have no say - Contrary to a KO with a count, where the fighter actually get a chance to rise.

But, it's inconsistent as hell at times. And I very much agree that a change would be welcome, so we can get more dry and cut "Knockouts". An example is in order, and I will use Povetkin and Whyte, since they fought each other a few days ago. Povetkin and Whyte have both met Joshua, and I believe the general consensus is, he KNOCKED THEM OUT! - Like, Povetkin literally needed the ref to save him from not hitting the canvas with the back of his head, and Whyte was laid out flat on his back - Ref stopped both fights, before a count, so they are TKO's. On the other hand, Joshua v. Martin, there were a count that Martin didn't answer, so that was a legit "KO" according to boxrec, even though Martin really wasn't badly hurt. The stoppages of Povetkin and Whyte was clearly more damaging, more emphatic and more impressive to witness.

So, the rule of thumb is this - Don't just blindly trust boxrec, search up the fight and judge for yourself.

 

Yes. And look at the fights like Mercer vs Morrison. Officially it's a TKO, but in reality everybody knows it was one of the most brutal knockouts in the history of boxing

 

Yup, very good example. There are so many. Gerry Cooney literally knocked Ken Norton out of the freaking sport! - But no count, so a TKO

 

I think it is just the inconsistency of how things are recorded which is probably the frustrating thing. Take JMM's KO of Pacman, referee didn't count to 10, yet it is recorded as a KO. Whereas Povetkin's is a TKO. Either both are a KO or both a TKO.

 

Nothing technical about the KO, its as clear cut a KO thats ever existed..Out Cold, KNOCKED OUT COLD

 

If you're on the ground, it's a KO, if you're standing up, it's a TKO.

If you think it's a TKO, then if someone is literally unconscious, are you saying the ref should count to 10 anyway, just to solidify it as a KO? If you waive it off because you see the man is a sleep, then you're waiving it off because there is literally no point in a countdown.

Whyte wasn't lucid. The medics were rushed into the ring to help him, and he didn't get up for over a minute after.

It was a clear KO.