Why is Ricardo Lopez record ignored?

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  1. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The notion that if Floyd makes it to 50-0, he has the all time record for retiring undefeated as a chamion, is simply untrue. Ricardo Lopez retired as champion at 51-0-1. Yes, he had a draw, but he never lost and was undefeated by definition. Sure, Marciano had bigger names on his record, but facts can not be disputed. Floyd has to make 52-0 in order to have the record.
     
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  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Lopez would have beaten chocolitito thats all i know...
     
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  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's too bad Lopez didn't fight at flyweight. He could have been a three weight champion.
     
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  4. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    Minimums werent paid enough attention thats why


    He makes My.top 10
     
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  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Becuase undefeated records are overratted in boxing
     
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  6. SmokinJoe10

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    Joe calzaghe had 46-0
     
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  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    My point exactly
     
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  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Well it's blemished, that's why.
     
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  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd's 50 and 0 record would be the longest unblemished streak in history, but Ricardo Lopez indeed would have more wins on his ledger. Jimmy Barry would still hold the record for most wins by a world champion who retired undefeated (59-0-9 in a career that spanned throughout the 1890's.
     
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  10. MysticalNinja

    MysticalNinja Active Member Full Member

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    nothing to do with a draw, just the weights he fought at.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    105 pounds
     
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  12. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he wasn't a loud mouthed American telling the world he was great, he just was great.
     
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  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where would you rank Lopez P4P?
     
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  14. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Naw, it's both. In some people's eyes that draw deserves an asterik and therefore is not a clean undefeated record.

    Any knowledgeable fan will give him proper credit. Lopez retired undefeated with 51 wins. FLoyd needs one more win to catch up to Marciano and 3 more to catch up to Finito(will not happen).
     
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  15. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Finito was as good a fighter as I've ever seen. He may even have as few flaws as Mayweather. Floyd will not get out of this sport undefeated. Karma will not allow it. Finito did, because he was never greedy and just did his job. Retiring undefeated was more a product of that, or a bonus. He was not a product of being undefeated though.
     
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