Why is Roberto Duran top 10 all time P4P material?

Your criticism is not "harsh", it´s just realistic and justified... :good



IMO Duran is a bit overrated here on ESB, but that doesn´t change the fact that he´s one of the greatest boxers ever...

 

Sweet Pea. Thats a bit harsh. You have actually wasted your own time as you could have posted about boxing, rather than someone you have a problem with.

Saying that, CHJ does talk nonsense, especially when he reckons Mayweather beat De La Hoya 10 rounds to 2.

 

Calzaghe is garbage.

 

Leaving aside his record and style ,which will no doubt be covered by others in this thread,he had as much natural "ring sense" as any fighter that ever lived ,imo.ie when to apply presure ,when to stall,fantastic head movement, very good inside, very good at mid range,great "geometrical" sense,ie ,he was all ways in front of you,as opposed to thre Liston types who plodded after their foes,ring smarts ,he had it!

 

Guys, vote me to a moderator here, and I promise you that I bowdlerize this forum from clowns like China_ hand_ Joe... ;-)

 

To tell the truth, I'm contemplating moving all of these Calzaghe threads to the lounge unless they start getting somewhere. They're like Hank/Revolver threads in miniature, albeit with better humor.

 

I hoped but knew that you understand the irony of my last post, that was of course no criticism for the mods, but to be honest, such posters like the "funny guy with the boxing knowledge", who started now almost everyday such stupid threads, really get on my nerves now. IMO your suggestion with the Lounge is good...

 

You know, humour and having fun is good and very important, but I for example prefer it to have it in reality, not here. When I´m here, I only want to transpose my boxing knowledge with others and want to discuss about boxing...

 

Go for it. A little more lunacy can't hurt, more or less. :scaredas:

 

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The assets taken away were drive, motivation, and good physical condition. It was ultimately Duran's fault that he showed up out of shape, but the fact that he was out of shape remains the case.

Leonard was hardly disinterested for the first fight, though. He merely chose the wrong strategy, and Duran obliged the greatest welterweight of the 80's by beating him. That, and the close performance against Hagler (another of the greatest fighters of his generation) seals the deal on Duran's abilities--it's a combination of his lightweight performances and his post-lightweight career rather than either/or.

 

Would you rather walk to school or carry your lunch, ChJ?

 

Its great that you mention the Hagler performance, even though it was a defeat. Hagler was in his prime at the time he fought Duran, which would more than likely be the opinion of everyone. However, some come to the conclusion his prime years were during the very early 80's. This is simply because what happened when Hagler fought Duran. People say to themselves, "It couldn't have been Hagler's prime if he was taken the distance by a natural lightweight", thus knocking his prime back a couple of years, 81-82. Well I'm afraid it was his prime. This is supported by Hagler's performance prior to meeting Duran, when he never put a foot wrong the night he totally outclassed Sibson.

You could say that Sibson was to Hagler, as Williams was to Ali. A career defining performance from each, on a night when everything came together. Ali and Hagler looked at the top of their games.