Why is Roberto Duran top 10 all time P4P material?

Leonard was in peak shape and well prepared, no off-day there. He didn't employ the best of strategy, but that doesn't make it an off day.


Now, in Leonard- Duran 2, Roberto definitely DID have an off-day.

 

Excellent post, there's nothing that immediately springs to mind which could be added to this. Well done. :good

 

This not even close to a logical argument. You went through all this so that you could write this piece of nonsense?

 

I agree. But a lot of people want to argue that it was a close fight. They were so shocked to see a lightweight outclass the second coming of Ali that they had to invent a fable.

 

this is my feeling as well.....hes great but i personally dont consider him top 10....maybe close but not top 10

 

And isn't it coincidental that two of the four best fighters of the 80's just happened to "fight the wrong fight" against Duran when he was focused and at the top of his game? :think

 

Well we could dissect each of those fights all night long. I'm pressuming the other fight you care to mention was Duran's win over Leonard in Montreal. What happened, happened. If Leonard boxed on that particular night we'll never know if he'd have won. He did adjust during the rematch, but Duran wasn't the same fighter. So where does the arguement end?.

Well, the reason Hagler was pushed the entire distance wasn't just because he fought the wrong fight, but also part of the reason was he had a very good ring general in front of him. Duran's strategy fooled Hagler, so lets give him some credit. If Duran decided to trade power punches with Hagler from the opening bell, would Hagler have won?. Maybe, maybe not. Whatever anyone thinks, it's an opinion at the end of the day.

The only part from below that can be questioned of being factual, were they in their primes. I think so.

Duran beat a prime Leonard.

And Duran took a prime Hagler the distance.

 

My point was that both Hagler and Leonard supposedly "fought the wrong fight" against Duran (in part at least) because Duran made them fight the wrong fight.

 

Yeah, I knew where you were coming from. Agreed.

However, there is a difference. Leonard came into the fight with Duran and fought exactly the way he expected, unlike Hagler who thought he was in for a war. Leonard addressed the press and said he'd stand flat foooted and beat Duran at his own game. Leonard knew what to expect from Duran that night.

The Hagler fight is slightly different, as everyone expected Duran to come forward aggressively, and he done the opposite. Many people picked Hagler to KO Duran based on how they expected Duran to fight, which was aggressively, thus playing right into physically stronger Hagler's hands.