Why Is Shane Such A Big Underdog?

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  1. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been checking some betting sites, and Floyd is HEAVILY favored over Sugar Shane.

    I do understand Shane being the underdog, but not by so much. Considering that Shane's last performance was so dominant, and Floyd hasn't fought a big (size) fighter since Delahoya in 2007 (Hatton and Marquez were fought at WW, but I think we can all agree that they are naturally smaller).

    I think the odds should be a little closer. Any thoughts?
     
  2. stevo78

    stevo78 Active Member Full Member

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    Totally agree, thats why i thought 25/1 for the draw is a good bet :)
     
  3. hoot

    hoot Active Member Full Member

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    he is 38 and will show his age on may 1 IMO. I think floyd will take him to school TBH
     
  4. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point about the age. Any chance (in your opinion) he can become a BH and a few dominant years left? I think the fight will be a little tougher than some may think.
     
  5. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he is fighting the best boxer on the planet.
     
  6. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Because when it's all said and done nobody wants to go against Mayweather with their money unless it's big odds.
     
  7. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mainly see him as the underdog because:

    - Mosley looked dominant against a guy that is perhaps the complete antithesis of Floyd's style.

    - Mosley's age.

    - The fact that I don't think he has the footspeed/footwork to really cut off the ring on a consistent basis and stop Floyd's much more balletic/graceful movements.

    - Has a habit of throwing big, looping punches, and curved/looping shots are perfect to be 'rolled'. It's normally the straight shots that get through the shoulder-roll, because they're much more difficult to sway with. In Floyd's latest fight with Marquez, one of the only really flush punches he took was a straight-right when he was backed up against the ropes, and he tried to smile it off. I haven't seen much of Mosley, but he seems too 'hook happy'.

    - Mosley's lack of a good jab. The jab is my favourite punch in boxing, and I think it has amazing versatility...you can use it to keep people away, you can use it to set-up a straight or another punch, etc, and because it's from the lead hand and travels in a straight line, it's perhaps the most troublesome punch to defend against, because it's so quick. A big fighter with good reach should surely benefit from using the jab a lot. Marquez didn't have the size to pull it off, but if Mosley had a good jab, he could use it to setup one of his power punches and really cause damage against the ropes.

    - Mosley has been outboxed before, and Floyd's speciality is outboxing via slick counter punches and defensive skill.

    However, I like the fact that he has Nazim in his corner...that could make things interesting. I also like the fact that he has the experience and handspeed to test Mayweather's defence, and he can also punch in combinations...I just worry that he doesn't have the legs to keep up.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    This is Floyd's first true test @ WW(about time) and I think he'll pass with flying colors.
    Shane shouldn't be written off he's still game to put on a great performance. I look forward to the last few 24/7's then the fight.
     
  9. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    agreed. i'd put money on shane for 8/1, same kind of odds i wanted for hatton. i'll be rooting for shane with all my heart but 10 years ago this would've been a tough fight for him...now, well now he's 10 years ****ing older
     
  10. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think I see what you're saying. If the payday weren't so big to bet against FMJ, then there wouldn't be much betting action.

    Any chance that Shane is just not being given enough credit? The odds were similar when he faced Margo.
     
  11. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good Analysis - thanks!
     
  12. nubianprince

    nubianprince Active Member Full Member

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    Not even a younger Mosley could beat Floyd. The skills almost same but smartness and ring generalship is Floyd by far. I love Shane but just no way.
     
  13. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd definitely has the age advantage, but wouldn't the inactivity apply to him too? Come fight night, Shane will have had 2 fights in the past year and a half; and Floyd will have had 1 fight in the past 2 years.
     
  14. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn't he at least have the punchers chance though?
     
  15. He's old as ****.
    He hasn't fought in 15 months.
    He hasn't looked impressive in 4 years - The Margarito fight, considering the circumstances, was essentially meaningless. Prior to that he was getting outboxed by Ricardo Mayorga, lost to Cotto and although cruised to victory did not look very good against a B- level fighter in Collazo.
    He fights as if it's too much trouble to even bother moving his head anymore.