Why is Sonny, Liston so hated now ?

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  1. TheHammerof63

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    A man tht was scene as sum1 ,
    as strong as JOE LOUIS IN
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    A Man tht Was able 2
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    Any1 , given the apropriate oppurtinity .

    A Man W/ 1 STELLAR
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    A Man W/ GR8
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    A Man W/ a GR8
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    A Man W/ GR8
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    A MAN W/ GR8
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    (Scared Cassius Clay out Of His Mind :yep)
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    He Did Adapt 2 win agaist Williams , who busted Liston up . Liston had 2 adapt ,
    against Machen ass well. :wink: He shortened ,
    his punches and Proceeded 2 win a clear ,
    desison.

    We Get it , he lacks a,
    QUALITY , WIN! Liston DID , beat Folley,
    Patterson (x2) , Williamz (X2), Wepner , & Machen! MORE Than Enough,
    2 Prove his Abilities.

    Liston wud ALWAYS Beat Cassius Clay , ANY DAY!
    Liston was Not in His Prime against Clay!

    Liston wud ALWAYS beat Foreman ! Sparring proves it !

    Liston wud ALWAYS beat Leotis Martin in his prime ! Leotis caught ,
    Liston on 1 bad part of career .

    Liston=UndeRated Heavyw8 , It is ,
    disgusting tht he waz ever disrespected by sum ppl who never,
    stepped into 1 ring. Facts :deal :bbb:good
     
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  2. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Theres a lot of love for Sonny. Got him in my top10.

    Great fighter. Smashed Cleveland Williams even Ali regarded him one of the best he fought.
     
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  3. TheHammerof63

    TheHammerof63 Guest

    Yes , vry hated . ALWAYS hated ,actualy. Nobody ,
    ever liked The Bear.
     
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  4. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    opps thought you meant Max Baer.
     
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  5. TheHammerof63

    TheHammerof63 Guest

    I kno plenty , of "knowledagble" posters tht
    clown Liston on 100% instances .

    Sum mite go ,
    n' say Jimmy Young would beat
    Sonny Liston?? NO chance of tht ,
    happening, m8.

    Sum mite imply 1 Holyfeild wud KO Liston :lol: No chance of tht happenin either .

    Sum Mite Imply,
    1 likes of Chris Bird decisioning Liston? NO ,
    I cannot Agree w/,
    ANY OF THESE "OPINIONS"
     
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  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    sonny is at least a top 14 ATG. Head to head sonny is strong. Its just that there are more champions who had better resumes against ATG's with more depth at championship level. What possibly hurts Liston (and enhances Ali's reputation) is the serious lack of rounds Sonny fought between 1960 and 1964. History measures a fighters championship record. We cant change that.
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely a top 15 heavyweight unless you don't place a great deal of worth on H2H ability. He gets treated fairly IMO on ESB, if anything overrated by many and let's be honest, if you can't really argue against the people that bash him for the second Ali fight. He had no business being in that ring whether he got hit or not. It's a real shame that he reached the pinnacle of his career when his abilities were on the slide.
     
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  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman hook!
     
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  9. lefe

    lefe Active Member Full Member

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    One of my favorite fighters.
     
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  10. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    I can't read this ****.
     
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  11. nikrj

    nikrj Active Member Full Member

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    I think Liston is a bit underrated nowadays, but not hated.
    It reminds me those Senor Pepe's threads...:yep
     
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  12. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    liston was a helluva fighter but he was one - slow, two - his heart is not good which would cost him against top tier heavyweights, and three came up in a division that was not particularly tough. nevertheless i think he may be in the top 12 maybe 10.
     
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  13. Theron

    Theron Boxing Addict banned

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    Listons one of my favorites
    I think certain people ''hate'' him or dislike him but as a majority i think he's mostly liked
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Well, I, for one, love him.
     
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  15. TheHammerof63

    TheHammerof63 Guest

    r u , joking, m8? ?

    Go ahead N' watch 1 Liston
    beat 1 dog **** out of ,
    Wayne Bethea ,
    n then plz tell me , m8 , tht Liston waz slow ,
    Liston did Drop Bethea like 1 bag of potatos ,._
    Liston was obviusly no Patterson ,
    butt stil had,
    incredabel speed , w/ gr8 power .

    Howe can u rly say ,
    he had no hr8 if u c him against de likes ,
    of Cleveland Williams ?? M8, Williams DID rock Liston ,
    SEVERAL TIMES! :thinkListon did indeed , Come bak 2
    Score A Convincing KO Over,
    Williams . Folley ROCKED Liston ,
    Liston overcame 1 adversity 2 win fight:hi:
     
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