Why is Tex Cobb's victory over Shavers overlooked?

hardest, not greatest. still a good win though

 

One of those good, toughing it out to get it done, wins.

Not an impressive performance, just a gritty, hard earned win that almost instantly sold Cobb as one of the best chins in boxing.

 

What was impressive was Cobb's ability to take a punch as Earnie was older but still a terrific puncher and Cobb was quite hittable .... Cobb made an interesting point about power hitters reflecting later in his career ... he said there is basically a cap on how hard any man can hit ... he said in his fight with Norton , Ken hit him once as hard s he was ever hit ... against Shavers he was hit just as hard except Shavers hit that hard every damn time .... pretty interesting if you ask me ..

 

Shavers was having problems with his footing because of a slick canvas.
This prevented him from really getting into his punches.

 

Perhaps its because Ron Stander had pulled off a similar victory when Earnie was coming up, Bernardo Mercado also did a similar feat (after getting up from a bomb of Earnies ) in Earnies later years, the feeling might be that if you are resilient, and can keep Earnie backing up and Occupied, The pendulum could indeed swing your way when Earnie was winding down.

 

Yes, and this is evident in the footage, which does indeed show Earnie's feet skating sideways on the ring perimeter at times. Ironically, it was Cobb who actually slipped to the deck at mid ring.

I don't think Cobb-Shavers is overlooked though. Tex later proved his toughness further in taking it from Holmes, Norton, Dokes, the huge and deadly Bernardo Mercado, and Big John Jackson in a PKA kickboxing bout, but his reputation for toughness was really cemented by Shavers.

 

Being the greatest puncher hardly translates to being a great overall fighter.

Cobb was game, Earnie was on the way out of his career, and the canvas wasn't good for the footwear Earnie had on. It wasn't an upset or anything. Interesting fight to watch though.

I suggest you watch it and make your own hypothesis. Would have saved you the time of asking questions.

 

I'd say Cobb's toughness was proved in the Holmes fight. Took punches for days (well, at least 15 rounds). Also got a cranky Cosell to quit. Which is also great for the sport.

Off the top of my head: didn't an old Shavers do pretty well against a green James Tillis (can't remember if he won or lost that'n)?

 

Tillis wasn't really green at this time, not with the championship distance against Weaver behind him. Tillis-Shavers was like Holmes-Shavers II, a one sided thrashing by James except for one moment in the ninth round when Earnie connected with his trademark hook to the body-right to the head, which dropped Tillis flat on his face and seemingly out. But to the amazement of Cosell and everybody else watching, Quick abruptly scrambled to his feet and proceeded almost as though nothing had happened. Carpentier also bounced up from a knockdown like that against Dempsey, but I'm hard pressed to think of many other such instances like that. Usually, when somebody's dropped on their face, they get counted out.

The Shavers-Tillis knockdown sequence begins at 1:55, obviously a far more devastating KD than the one Tyson inflicted on James four years later:

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And god knows we'll be having none of THAT on an internet forum!

 

Haha, yeah. It amazes me how many people avoid doing actual "roadwork". You might find something (let alone the answer you were searching for).

Duodenum: Forgot how long Tillis had already been fighting. That fight against Weaver was one hell of a stinker.

 

Most people knew Earnie was finished after Holmes. And then Mercado buried him even further. By the time of the Cobb fight, we knew Earnie was now a stepping stone and shouldn't have been fighting. It was an ugly, sloppy fight, and didn't impress me. In fact, the only thing that's every impessed me about Cobb was his sense of humor. He's hilarious, but that's about it.

 

cobb was a good fighter. Two things mark cobb down, the first being that it is widely accepted he took a one sided beating off Holmes, the second being that cobb himself was such an amusing guy who played things down.

Howard cossel tried to make a phoney controversy out of the Holmes v cobb fight. Howard’s ego was huge. He in his own mind decided he could make boxing and break it. cossel wanted to go down as the man who decided boxing was finished. what an arse hole.

If you watch Holmes v cobb, Holmes is superior and winning the rounds but cobb is in the fight. Holmes knows he cannot afford to trade with cobb and keeps him at arms length.

For a long time cobb only lost or drew to world champions. He was a handful.

 

You can see a younger Jesse Jackson in the orange short sleeve shirt on the left side of the screen in about the third row.