Why is Tex Cobb's victory over Shavers overlooked?

Yeah, a great TV fight for 1980, but Shavers was age 35 and had already been battered and stopped on several occasions prior to that war with Texas Cobb...... Cobb won the war, but, he also was roughly 27 or 28 yrs old and in good shape in 1980.... Cobb was suppose to win if he were to become a credible title contender of the early 1980s....

MR.BILL:hat

 

I dont really see why Shavers is rated as the 'greatest puncher' in the history of the sport.

No doubt he had considerable power....but who the F*** did he ever KO?

He doesnt have **** on Foreman thats for sure, and was beaten quite soundly by Quarry, and despite being totally shot and fighting pretty substandard, Ali still gave him a shot at the title, and started putting an ass whupping on him in the 15th round, shavers was out on his feet.

Personally speaking, I rate the likes of Liston, Foreman, and Tyson, all on different levels to shavers as punchers

 

Of course he gets credit. Cobb had a wonderful chin. He was actually pretty busy for a heavyweight. If you are in shape and can keep your hands moving and have a great chin, you can do something in the heavyweight division. That was Cobb. Shavers had the massive punch, but he couldn't hurt Cobb, who was the better boxer and better conditioned fighter. Ernie always did have condition and chin issues.

 

Why do people always point to the people he lost to as evidence that he can't punch? That has nothing to do with anything. The fact that he lost to them has to do with talent and a host of other factors. Power is just one factor. Plenty of very untalented fighters had very good power.

 

Really the perfect response.

2nd hardest puncher I ever traded with, nobody here ever heard of, guaranteed. You can hit like a fiend, but getting it there is important too, and Shavers was worse than some other great hitters in this area.

 

Forgive me, but are you saying you traded punches with Shavers? 'Cause if so, that's pretty cool. That's pretty damn cool.

 

Shavers had my man Holmes down and on ***** street in '79 Vegas, but Ernesto's technique after the knockdown occurred was so ****-poor and amateurish, that there alone is ONE or TWO good reasons why Holmes kept his title and roared back to TKO 11 Shavers......

MR.BILL

 

It's not underrated. People talk about it all the time on here.

 

The way he was coming after Dokes in their first fight was somewhat scary.Dokes even said in an interview afterwards he didn't really want to fight Tex again.

 

Randy "Tex" Cobb was a colorful character that was one of the funniest men in sports.He was a human quote machine and was great at the one liners.He was also one hard *******.But easily,his greatest contribution to the sport of boxing was getting ultimate nuthugger Howard Cosell to quit the sport.Well said,Briscoe:good

 

Oh, hell no. I'd have never gotten in the ring, headgear or no. I have enough problems.

Wladimir Klitschko hit me the hardest Ive ever been hit, but the only other contender to that title is a journeyman heavyweight with a losing record who I was goofing around with, and happened to hit like a howitzer. Truly a dynamite puncher. He was just also slow, uncoordinated, and unskilled, and thus, never made it.

God, friend, thinking about going to war with Earnie Shavers gives me a headache.

 

It was the same with Hearns-Cuevas. Pipino wore canvas shoes and it was like fighting on an ice rink.

Hearns KOs him regardless, but probably not as quickly as he would have had to have been more careful if Pipino wasn't sliding all over the place (Tommy wore rubber-soled shoes and had better traction).

 

Whats the guys name? The journeyman heavyweight.

 

Which is one round less than what Bernardo Mercado did to the same puncher just a few months earlier.