Why is The Boxing Community so Nostalgic Compared to Other Sports Communities?

This is your last chance with me.

If you want to debate, then we can.

If you want to be stupid, then I’m out.


No, they never fought anyone as skilled.

Neither did Mike Tyson.

So I guess Loma would have caused Mike issues too, huh?


Stop being an idiot.

 

You're acting like being 50/50 against Floyd is a bad thing. Benitez was no slouch. Very good defensive fighter with some pop.

 

How did Hearns struggle with Duran?

What are you talking about?


I’ve already discussed a Spence fight.

I think Errol would have boxed with Hearns.

He’s not aggressive like Marvin was, and he doesn’t possess Marvin’s strength or power.

So it’s highly unlikely that he’d have jumped on Hearns and overpowered him or knocked him out.

 

Who lost to Mugabi?

You can’t even spell their names correctly.

Benitez was a fine fighter.

Again, Barkley was a bad stylistic match up, and up at Hearns’ 3rd weight class.

 

Of course.

And?

Once again, Spence hasn’t got the style of guys like Marvin and Barkley.


It’s no different from looking at Floyd’s career and then asking “Canelo was better than Maidana on a P4P basis, wouldn’t you agree?”

Floyd embarrassed Canelo, yet then struggled against a crude Maidana less than a year later.

 

Spence could possibly have beaten Duran. But it’s hard to say at this point.

We’ve no idea how Spence would do against elite JMW’s and MW’s.

 

Yes.

I have agreed with you.

 

Is this a typo?

 

Spence would definitely have had issues with Barkley.

A prime Michael Nunn had huge issues with Barkley.

Porter had similarities with Barkley.

Both tough, physical fighters.

 

We have more evidence that Roy would have beaten GGG than vice versa.

Now go and compare GGG’s current MW division to the one from the early 90’s.

Do that and then come back with Ertwin and tell us all how the sport’s progressed.

 

Then how highly rated would Crawford and Spence be?

They both have weak resumes.

 

I dont think it necessarily IS accepted in other sports that the athletes of today are better or whatever. Theres still plenty of debate regarding how guys like Jordan or Maradona or whatever would do in their respective sports today. And when it comes to boxing, do you really see a change in the level of athleticism now? like are the current boxers faster? do they throw with more volume? are there actually more active pro boxers now than there was 30 years ago (genuine question btw)? obviously theres the 15 rounds vs 12 rounds aspect too. The only real noticeable change imo is the size of HWs but it felt like HWs were already getting bigger and more jacked starting in the 80s anyway. Most of the 80s/90s crop seem comparable enough to the current HWs in size and strength but on average better technically and athletically.

As for the overall nostalgia thing though, a lot of it is because boxings popularity in America has declined significantly. It used to be a legitimate mainstream sport full of American stars. There is absolutely nothing on the level of Ali, or Mike, or Floyd, in boxing now in terms of mainstream star power. Its pretty obvious that the golden age of the sport in terms of American cultural relevance is long gone, so yes of course theres a lot of nostalgia.

 

Are UK fans even nostalgic like that though? most of the biggest crowds and PPV numbers in British boxing history have happened since 2017. AJ is probably the biggest British boxing star/draw ever and Fury isnt far behind.

 

Very debatable. NBA today is basically zero contact.

 

You yourself compared Spence to a top 3 ATG Middleweight in Hagler, when Spence wouldn't even be in top 30 Welterweights of all time.

What makes me laugh is Spence's best win is Shawn Porter, and Mikey Garcia a guy who moved up two weightclasses to fight him. Yet your bringing up Hagler's resume laughable in all honesty.

Are Hearns and Duran not ATG's ? And did they not achieve things at higher weightclasses ? Duran destroyed Davey Moore and beat Iran Barkley. Hearns won the Light Heavyweight title from a Hall Of Famer in Virgil Hill, and should've got the decision against Sugar Ray Leonard the 2nd time.

Remind me again what Mikey Garcia did at Welterweight ?

And finally name me one ATG Golovkin, Spence, Crawford, Charlo, have beaten ?