Why is there such a LACK of Quality American Heavyweight Boxers?...I HAVE THE ANSWER.

Look...The Lack of American (Especially Black American) Heavyweight is all due to ECONOMICS!!!

Its far more profitable for Black Americans kids that stand 6'2-6'8 200-260lbs or more to play Basketball or Football. Solely because College Basketball and College Football is VERY popular in the USA. And even if these kids do not play a single down of Pro Football or make a single shot in the NBA....A COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP MEANS A FREE EDUCATION. There are NO Boxing Scholarships in America. (if it is...its news to me.) And if a kids uses this free education correctly...He can provide a GREAT living for himself.

James Brown of CBS never played in the NBA, but was drafted by the Atlanta Hawks and now has a great career as a Broadcaster because of a free education. Gus Johnson one of the Best Broadcasters in the Business, was an all-state cornerback (football) in Michigan...never played in the NFL but has a great career because of a FREE EDUCATION. And I can name many more Black Americans who never played played PRO BALL but used their Athletic talent in Football and Basketball to get a FREE EDUCATION and earn a great living!!!

Now in the past 15 years, the number of Black Americans Boxers have increased in the 122lbs weight division to 160lbs. Simply because...If an 18-24 year old kid weighs 122lbs -168lbs...thats WAY TOO small to play Football and more than likely their under 6 feet (5'2-5'9) and that's WAY TOO SMALL for Basketball. And there are only a handfull of Allen Iversons, Chris Pauls and Spudd Webbs in the world.

Here is an example of why its FAR MORE profitable for Black American Kids to Play Basketball or Football in the USA.

Lebron James, Derrick Rose, Darren Williams, Adrian Peterson, Blake Griffin, Amare Stoudamire, Dwight Howard, Randy Moss, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Carmelo Anthony and this rookie WR that just signed with the 49ers Michael Crabtree.

All of these Pro Basketball and Football players that I mentioned...all stand between 6'2 to 6'10 and all are over 200lbs. And all have the Altheticism to become excellent Boxers with the right training. But from playing Basketball and Football...before all of these players reach their 24th birthday...THEY WERE MILLIONAIRES!!!

Directly after H.S. Lebron signed a 90 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT AT 19 YEARS OLD. Michael Crabtree just got 17 MILLION GUARANTEED.

NOW...HOW LONG WOULD A BOXER FROM THE USA WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT TO MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY????

So, to repeat...The Lack of American (especially Black American) Heavyweights is because its more PROFITABLE to play BASKETBALL OR FOOTBALL.

 

Eastern Europe started fighting pro.

Stacy McKinley: “Vitali Klitschko is probably the best thinking fighter heavyweight since Muhammad Ali. He’s a very smart, intelligent fighter. Very smart,” said McKinley last week in an interview we did in New York City. “He can box, he can throw punches from all angles. He can move. He can take a punch. He’s tall. He’s busy. He’s very hard to hit. Good thinker. Oh, he’s a helluva thinker.”

McKinley got a close up view of the WBC Heavyweight champion in Berlin last year while working with Samuel Peter. “That’s what I said when I fought him with Samuel Peters. I said, Don’t try to think with this guy. Don’t try to out-box or out-think this guy. Get in there and fight this guy. But he want to sit back and try to out-think him. You can’t do it. And I told him, He’s probably the smartest heavyweight I’ve seen in the ring since Muhammad Ali. And I’ve seen a lot of good fighters. Larry Holmes and all them were good fighters but they weren’t good thinkers. This guy Vitali is a great thinker. It seems like he knows what you’re gonna do before you start to do it. So he’s very, very, very cagey. I don’t think nobody can beat him.”

When I ask which fight or fights of Vitali were most impressive which convinced him to become a believer, he replies, “Well, the Lennox Lewis fight. The left-hander he fought that beat his brother (Corrie Sanders). All these guys he fought. He’s just so smart. He moves good. A real intelligent fighter.”

Then I suggest something many pundits have not yet begun to accept or contemplate. Is Vitali one of the heavyweight greats of all time? McKinley does not disagree. “One of the greats and that’s what I said. I told him. I haven’t seen one that smart since Muhammad Ali. I told him after the fight with Peters, post press conference. Smartest I’ve seen as far as thinking. Most of the guys can’t think that well. He’s just great, man, a great thinker. Since Muhammad Ali. He’s that smart.”

Does Cristobal Arreola have any chance to beat Vitali? “No,” replies McKinley without a hint of doubt. “Three or four rounds he might get knocked out. He can’t beat that kid. Standing up too straight, he ain’t got the chin or the skills. This guy, like I tell you, he knows what he’s doing. And I was talking to his brother Wladimir, he was down in Miami. I said, Have you and your brother ever sparred together?

“Wladimir said, No, we’re too competitive. I said, Let me tell you something. That’s a smart boy. He said, Yeah, he’s very hard to fight. I said, You don’t have to tell me. He’s very hard. He’s the best heavyweight out there. I don’t think anybody can beat him.”

Does McKinley believe Vitali is the superior heavyweight fighter to Wladimir? “Oh yeah. He’d knock Wladimir out. Wladimir’s got good, basic fundamentals but he couldn’t do nothing with that kid. Kid’s too good, man. And I knew we were gonna have a hard fight with Samuel Peters. I said, Go in and put pressure on, cut the ring off and fight him. Don’t think with him. Don’t try to out-box him. Because you can’t out-think him. You’ve got to fight him. But he tried to think and you saw what happened. It was no contest. He quit.”

 

ok.....

now tell us why there is there a lack of Quality White American Heavyweights

 

I can't speak for that demographic.

In my profession....I cover Basketball and Football in "Urban areas of America".

 

The reason that quality fighters are not being made in America is because Amatuer programs have all but died off. It used to be there was boxing at every highschool, but now, due to the pussification of America, a young man wishing to learn to box really has look for a place to learn his craft.

The "there all playing basketball or football" arguement reverses the cause and the effect. Sure, atheletes go into the sports available to them. But some mena re just natural born warriors. If boxing programs were more readily available, we would see more boxers.

Peace.

 

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Thats a good point...But I am going to stick to the financial side of it.

Question: If a Kid 6'6 260, runs a 4.5 40, NFL size tight end..has a chance for a College Scholarship and in two years go to the NFL Draft and sign
$10Mil-Plus GUARANTEED or Fight for 3 plus years in the Amatuers for NOTHING, then Turn pro, have about 3 years worth of fights in Mississippi, Tuscon, AZ, El Paso, TX on S.H.I.T.T.Y. Telemundo, Azteca channel undercards for $2,000 a piece...

What do you think that kid wiould choose as the BEST way to "take care" of his family????

 

This thread is borderline Nallege material. You are making it out to seem that a child(black) picks the sport he wants to excel at that by the one could make him/her the most money at. If that is the case then why is there a growing decrease in American black baseball players when they get paid a lot more on average than your average NFL players does?

The sport that is mainstream,popular and easily available gets the attention of that future athlete.Whereas boxing for a child, he isnt exposed to the sport unless hes born into a family into it or has connections with someone else that does.

Otherwise under your theory you'll get one too many brothas working on their putting game in the hood.

 

we already know

 

Pussification? Yes, the young black and poor in America are known for their easy, easy lives. Good thinking.

Amateur boxing clubs died off BECAUSE people stopped going to them because people stopped boxing because they started playing other sports that offered a myriad of ancillary benefits that boxing does not. Basketball in particular is social, requires little in the way of special equipment, can be played and learned quite well without intensive coaching, doesn't involve subjecting yourself voluntarily to injury, and there are programs at every high school and college in the nation.

Boxing has traditionally been an outlet for the poorer classes in America. They have better options now, and they take them. As was mentioned, why go into boxing on the off chance that you're the rare, rare specimen that can actually make a living doing so when you can play football or basketball and at the very least get a scholarship and a college education. And be playing a much more popular and respected sport.

Bull**** about not having fighting spirit or whatever you want, but boxing is neither lucrative for the overwhelming majority of even professional boxers and it is not a career that is kind to it's practicioners over time. If you want to end up punch drunk, broke, and unknown be a boxer, chances are you'll get exactly what you're after.

 

fantastic post

speakz the truth and of course their is one person that hatez the truth more then anyone and thatz farmboxer

notice farmboxer is such a expert of denying the truth he doesnt even DARE challenge you on ONE of your POINTz all he does is talk about how great and smart vitali is while completely denying that that are bigger, taller, stronger and more atheltic atheletez in the nba and nfl league then vitali and itz more then likely that not all of them but a few of them if trained from a young age would wipe the floor up with mr smart guy

 

no jackass the reason is what you said and what he said and a bunch of other thingz

dont be goof and confuse yourself by reversing your cause and effect for show

 

I can answer that for you. Again...I cover H.S., College and Pro Basketball and Football and the majority (Mostly All) of the H.S. school sports I cover is in INNER-CITY areas. South Philly, DC, Southside Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta...etc. The Vast majority of the Atheltic departments of these scolls are sorely UNDERFUNDED...the majority don't have a Baseball program.

And the Football equipment they have...Helmets, Uniforms, weight room...in most cases are provided by an Alum that has MADE IT BIG and donated MILLIONS to the Football program. I did a great story about Derrick Rose who donoted $800,000 to the Football and basketball programs of his H.S. (Simeon H.S. Chicago).

 

Basketball requires a ball and a hoop, of which every city has a number, all over the place. Baseball requires a bat, ball, gloves for everyone, a field large enough, and of the correct size to play...it's much more equipment intensive. It's much harder to play a "pick up" baseball game. Likewise you can't play golf without clubs and the money to at least pay green fees at your local city club. You also can't just "pick up" golf. Without having quality coaching (of the sort that usually costs money) you won't get anywhere. While shooting a basketball requires form and finesse it's much easier to just pick it up and learn it without a lot of coaching, again in part because all you need is a ball and a hoop.

Boxing is somewhat like golf in that it's not exactly a "pick up sport".

 

Iron curtain came down.