Why is there suddenly no complaining about HW Division's Quality?

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Wlad was never in his career counted out on the canvas.

    I've seen that knockdown many times already. Also notice how anxious Vitali was in the early rounds before Corrie gassed. It's just proofs that:

    Vitali's chin: Overrated.
    Wlad's chin: Underrated.

    So If you had power and ability (size+speed) to make use of it, you could put him down - and out like Wlad.

    Wlad's got all of that, plus an ATG jab to capitalize on Vitali's poor low guard lean back defensive style. It worked great for him his whole career against short men, but Lewis exposed that defense with his jab. And that skin and bone structure is not good for taking damage, just like Wlad's, but at least Wlad had a better defense to protect it against taller fighters.

    1. Vitali would have to respect Wlad´s power.
    2. Wlad would expose that poor defense.

    That's the fight.
     
  2. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me guess
    The reasons for popularity are:
    Current champs are American and British and not Russian/Ukrainian.
    There's no single unified champ, who easily defeats every one in one sided fights for 11 years.
    Many exciting fights are being made where fighters slug it out instead of boxing.
    Once another strong EE guy comes and dominates the devision becomes "weak and boring" again.
     
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  3. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Waldo killed interest in the HW division for a lot of people. An unbeliveably boring coward of a "fighter", his masacre at the hands of Corrie Sanders is one of the Greatest (and funniest) sights in boxing history

    The division is still ****, but at least its not dominated by a gigantic terrified *****
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Haha. So did Wlad not sign your starter cap or what?
     
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  5. BCS8

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    The Germans complained he was too exuberant and they found his over-the-top personality somewhat off-putting. But Wlad can't help himself.


    (j/k)
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Also, the HW division right now sucks. Guys like Povetkin, Ortiz, Chisora are top boxers, ffs. They came off the Ark with Noah. Even Charr finally managed to snag a belt. AJ to my mind is probably the pick and he struggled to overcome ancient Wlad and Povetkin. Fury has a special talent but is wildly inconsistent. Wilder we all know about: the Max Baer of our times, better managed. And that's it.

    This era sucks and we urgently need fresh blood.
     
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  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Vitali was anxious against most fighters. Of course he was anxious against Sanders. The guy was a devastating explosive puncher

    Lol overrated chin. Just watch the Lewis fight. Vitalis chin was ATG

    Half of Waldo's defence involved grabbing and leaning on his grossly overmatched opponents. Blatantly cheating "tactics" he would have been DQd for outside his adopted hometown

    1. He was anxious in all his fights, but he still had the chin to take what got through
    2. No he wouldnt. Waldo would be too terrified to pull the trigger
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    When a boring cowardly EE guy like Waldo comes and dominates the devision it becomes hideously boring

    When an exciting EE guy like Golovkin comes along and dominates it doesnt become boring at all, though the usual blatant agenda driven crowd will cite it as weak
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    The 'Ukranian Apollo Creed' they called him.
     
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  10. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    That's the problem. I didn't say his chin was bad. Just overrated like you do calling it "ATG" Vitali was no Wach or Valuev, those were ATG.

    Also Vitali didn't take to many punches of Lewis, sure something here and there but no combos put together. Lewis was gassed in that fight and didn't manage to put his combinations together because of this. Vitali outmuscled and outworked an older man coming in too heavy.

    If Lewis or Sanders had better stamina during their fights, they sure could have won it by TKO. Just like Joshua did against Wlad.

    It's not rocket science to figure it out all things considered.

    Vitali was more of a dark horse compared to Wlad because of his much weaker resume, we simply didn't get as much information out of him during his career. The same can also be said about Wlad but to a lesser extent. Against Joshua for example, Wlad showed that his chin had been underrated for almost all of his career. And that's disgraceful to the man that took on so many fights for such a long timespan. And regarding pulling the trigger, a prime Wlad would have found it much easier landing on a big stiff like Vitali who used to prey on the small.