Why Is Tyson Fury's PED Cheating Ignored, While People Disparage Canelo?

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    :lol:

    It's fun watching people discuss PED use, who have absolutely zero experience.

    Fury, Saunders, Povetkin, Canelo, Valdez, Ortiz Sr, Miller - they're all the same. More often than not they're popped during the last couple of weeks of PCTherapy.

    Tyson Fury is a coked-out, anabolic steroid abusing slob. Each promotional company is very well aware of what their fighter is using and what the story is, should their cycle be interrupted.
     
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  2. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No experience with what?
    You know what experience I & others do & do not have?
    I have not had experience with using PEDs, but what is your experience-& where is the *evidence* everyone is using, or that every promo company knows they are using, fuhgettibout what it is?

    Instead of using a mocking icon & being disparaging, just present & address evidence.
    I am not saying the opposite extreme of what you are: implying that everyone is using.
    I am sure many use.
    But there is an expression "Extreme claims require extreme evidence".
    What is yours?
     
  3. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Because Fury is the ultimate conman. He would make a good car salesman. Full of BS.
     
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  4. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Ah stop got pain in my head trying to read this
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why? It is clear, logical enumerated for you.
    Try AGAIN if you care about getting at The Truth.
    If it is too complicated for you to comprehend, then consider that you if you cannot follow this basic reasoning-& agree or show where you think there are flaws-you do not have the ability to form a fair conclusion on the issue.

    But I think it is likely that it is a matter of patience & effort.
    Try again when you are calm, ask questions if you need to...
    You need not get a headache & abandon efforts to understand.

    Show some fortitude man!
    Try.
     
  6. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Don't think for a moment that the knives aren't still sharp and waiting.

    He's played it cuter with his public utterances since returning, and he forced the UK news media to grant him grudging positive coverage by the spectacular nature of his championship comeback in the US and the widespread public acclaim it garnered, but both sides know they're in a cat-and-mouse game.


    Yes, Fury's butt was certainly being covered back in 2016, when well-meaning folks tried to bring public attention to covert footage that showed him declaring his desire to establish a new Reich in Britain. Them folks was shut down by the same machine that had given Fury such an undeservedly lavish champion's reception upon his return from beating some humdrum paper titlist in Düsseldorf. Then, when some noble chaps tried to give an eighteen-month-old test result a very belated public reveal for totally transparent and upstanding reasons in the middle of the establishment's love-in with Fury, the machine totally hushed it up again.

    Oluwafemi, on the other hand, well, after the machine had offered only the most desultory and grudging acknowledgement of his truly momentous lineal championship victory over the long-reigning Charles Martin, the vicious attack dogs of the press well and truly hauled him over the coals for his highly educational and spiritually enlightening DMs to other boxers concerning "superior" races before widely scandalizing his completely legitimate and innocent TUEs, figuratively placing him in the stocks to be pelted with public abuse and putting his career on ice for the better part of two years.
     
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  7. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    I don't think he got a free pass, but Canelo is simply on a different level than Fury. I'm not a Canelo fan but he had a lot more star power at the time and it's not even close. that type of criticism comes with the territory.
     
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Don't think for a moment that the knives aren't still sharp and waiting."

    Correct. There's no "forgive and forget" here. Fury's lambasting of powerful people in media and finance, his comments on sexual ethics and female empowerment, these things were taken very seriously at the time and the same people who wanted to destroy him then still desire his downfall. Even before Fury had made any controversial comments his face never really fit, with the British press transitioning rapidly from their love affair with Haye to Joshua. And of course, Joshua's own politically charged comments; invective against his moronic, self-abnegating hosts in this case, were covered up nicely by the same people who viciously attacked Fury. I don't blame Fury for "selling out" (the Klitschko's by contrast never "sold in") as the public generally disliked him even after he'd dethroned the king in his backyard to become the first heavyweight champion from these Isles in 100 years. These are, as Morvidus says, the same people who made Chisora a PPV star. So they get what they deserve.
     
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  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Guy is a fraud. He is one of the dirtiest boxer. His hitting behind the head, constantly holding/leaning on opponents, was accused of cheating with gloves from 3 different guys, he is a known chicken ducker as well, and of course a proven PED cheater.
    He probably fake his retirement for this exact reason to escape with PED use once again.
    He is going to get exposed pretty soon though. He is either going to duck Usyk shamelessly and everyone going to see who he really is, or he is going to get schooled by Usyk.

    Usyk team ain't stupid, and will want someone like Kenny Bayless in there to counter Fury cheating and penalize him, when he is cheating the rules, as he usually does.
    Take away Fury holding and leaning, and he will be dead halfway through the fight.
     
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  10. shadowuppercut

    shadowuppercut New Member Full Member

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    A lot of things about Tyson Fury are ignored.
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Which is why people still pick against him. wilful ignorance.
     
  12. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Probably because there is no catchy nickname like Clenelo or PEDerson.
     
  13. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Furiabol… :periodico:

    As far as what the OP is talking about, hypocrisy regarding PED usage has been around for years. Look at how certain individuals ignore Holyfields past PED history and STILL call him the GOAT cruiser weight. Lol :D Or even James Toney, Mayweathers iv crap and countless others. PED use is rampant in pro sports whether people want to admit to it or not. Hypocrisy while annoying, will kinda always be there too. People like who they like.

    I say if a fighter pops dirty in the past but has kept a clean record since… move on.
     
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  14. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    They're all on PEDS.
     
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  15. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great point.