Why is Vitali a favorite over his more accomplished brother Wladimir h2h

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  1. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mercer did better than Vitali at least that should be talked about more but on this sub Lewis Mercer is fairly well respected at the least.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I always thought Vitali was better than Wlad h2h. He was mentally tougher too.
     
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  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You're saying 240s was lewis's prime weight, so what is lewis' prime years then according to you... a spectator?

    Because Lewis fought Mike Tyson literally the year before Vitali, and when asked about that bout... Lewis said "i peaked late in my career when I fought Tyson; and Tyson peaked early which is not my (lewis') problem"

    So lewis still felt he was in his peak and you're trying to say something different...

    And btw.. 256 is not a bad weight at all for lennox he is a big framed 6 foot 5 man. He was his heaviest but so what? he wasnt overweight. You could argue 240 was underweight. Just more exaggeration in my opinion and more discrediting of vitali's performance. Did vitali quit? No. Was he out on his feet? No. He was objecting hard and ready for next round.

    Cuts can happen to anyone, but you're making it out like Lewis engineered a mission to cut his opponent... someone he was losing to on all score cards and a bout where lewis was getting tagged badly a lot... its not like he was fighing someone levels below him to work on inducing a cut with such precision. Thats not how it works. Try causing a cut when a heavweight like vitali is trying to take your head off... good luck.

    Lewis didn't want the rematch too.. why is that?? if it was such an easy lovely walk in the park for lewis like you make it out to be.... he could have got more money. Its not like lewis doesnt like making money, he is always offering to get back in the ring if the money is right. So where was Lewis??? Would have been easy money the way you portray it to be.

    lets not exaggerate! Wlad would have got KOd
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis looked his most coordinated and fluid in the 240s, i do think he was past it. Vitali would give any version of Lewis trouble no doubt. He's got certain traits over Wlad
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I disagree; no doubt with age you lose speed and reflexes, but Lewis has always had a lazy walkround the ring style, he wasn't exactly muhammed ali fluid.

    Anyways, as a messenger, Lewis himself said he peaked late. He said that after the Mike Tyson Bout.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Lewis was lethargic. He looked similar vs Tyson but Tyson was shot and couldn't do anything. You don't actually Lewis was in peak condition do you ? I can't see it, everything visually indicates he wasn't. All humans reflexes will noticeably decline by the late 30s it's just biology, and Lewis was a career heaviest and his best performances were in the 240s. Lewis may have been stronger but he was slower, I have a hard time seeing any heavyweight peak in their late 30s. Lewis probably meant his mid 30s. Usyk is still performing well but anyone can see he's past it