Why is Wilder feasting on bums?

You seem very fond of this term "Eurobum". I suppose you won't mind telling me whom you'd consider a worthwhile series of opponents for a prospect of Price's experience level?

 

Exactly. Beck was a decent fringe contender type maybe 6-7 years ago. Now, he's a tomato can. Just like all of Wilder's other opponents.

WAKE UP people! This fraud is hiding GLASS in his whiskers. ANY live body would starch this joke, and his handlers know it. THAT'S why he fights nothing but stiffs.:yep

 

I have no problem with a prospect fighting bums. It's just when he isn't improving or learning anything(Where Wilder and Price are getting close)

 

Durability is not the key to beating Wilder. Wilder is just too powerful, I don't care how strong a chin his opponent has.

The key to beating Wilder, or exposing any possible flaws he has, is to be fast, powerful, and aggressive. Wilder has literally never faced a fighter that actually came at him with dangerous intent. We have no idea how he would react to such pressure.

After this next fight, we still won't.

 

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32 bums, my mistake atsch

 

Wilder's far closer to that than Price. He's already had ten more fights and has yet to fight anyone close to a Sexton level opponent. If Price doesn't show any substantial step ups in the next year then you'd have something of an argument on your hands, but the way Price is blowing through the domestic scene it won't be long before he's looking beyond our shores for future opponents.

 

Sexton's best win is over Rogan....another mediocre fighter. He has more fights because he is more active. Both guys were 08 Olympians. Price has the more extensive amateur pedigree and is older than Wilder. He's almost 30 and has fewer fights. Price has 14 fights in over 3 years. Wilder has 25 in just under 4. Wilder was a novice with real talent and is learning on the job. Good for him.

 

-McDermott is still better than just about anyone Wilder has faced

-Chisora beat Helenius, and ran Vitali Klitschko over 12 rounds and gave him a damn good fight. If Wilder blasted Chisora out, I'd be impressed! But the complete opposite would happen, Chisora would get to Wilder and KO him in 8 rounds.

-Chisora is a solid contender, why do you keep on saying 'euro' level, do you not realise that the HW division is based almost exclusively in Europe? None of the top HW's are in the USA, the American HW scene isn't relevant. Chisora is better than any American HW right now, I'm not even going to mention David Haye who's levels above anyone America has to offer.

-I've never heard of Maurice Byarm, when he steps up and gives Klitschko a good fight, then I might consider him Chisora level

It's a shame America has nothing to offer to the HW division. In the 90's the HW scene was almost exclusively American, even the Klitschko's were fighting in the USA.

By the way, Wilder did beat Beck...and? Danny Williams beat Tyson, but it means nothing because both Beck and Tyson were shot to ****. Hasn't Beck lost his last 10 fights in a row before facing Wilder???

 

I personally reckon it would be great for the sport if a top class American heavyweight emerged. Someone with charisma as well as ability.

Wilder ain't ever gonna be that man.

 

Which remains irrelevant because my point was about accomplishments, and the fact remains that Wilder has yet to challenge for a title, let alone win one.

What's Wilder's biggest accomplishment in the pro-ring? Beating Beck? Sure, he once fought for Valuev's World Title but he'd been on a seven fight loosing streak when he took the fight.

Price's biggest win is against Harrison. Harrison is widely regarded as a failure of a pro but going into the fight against Price, Harrison had only lost once in six, and that loss was against David Haye who is arguably the third best Heavyweight around.

Fury's best win is against Chisora. Chisora was the undefeated British and Commonwealth champion when he fought Fury and he went on to fight Helenius - where he was arguably robbed - and Vitali - where he gave the WBC Champion a very uncomfortable time - before being outclassed by Haye.

Price's win over Harrison and Fury's win over Chisora are lightyears better than Wilder's win over Beck, not because they were wins over reigning or former champions but because both Harrison and Chisora were far closer to their prime than Beck was.

If Wilder was all that his fans say he is, if Wilder was not a Bum-Fighter, if he was a serious contender then why doesn't he face Seth Mitchell or Bryant Jennings or Joe Hanks or even Chazz Witherspoon? Why isn't he calling out the guys at the top of his domestic scene? Why isn't he chasing them and signing to fight them and make a name for himself at the domestic level? Why is he continuing to fight nobodies or has-beens? Before trying to make him out to be some great prospect for the future it would be better if he proved it by cleaning out his domestic opposition instead of wasting his time with the Bum of the Month club.

 

Because they won't fight him. Hanks has publicly said that Wilder totally outclasses him, and Wilder has been publicly calling out Jennings for the last year.

I don't think they've approached Mitchell yet, mostly because Mitchell is too dangerous a step up right now, but if they DID offer Mitchell a fight, I guarantee you Mitchell would turn it down.

This has been discussed to death already, and it's the big problem with boxing in general: How do you make great fights happen, when the better fighter is being asked to take a huge risk for little money & little gain to his record if he wins?

I expected big things from GBP when they first signed Wilder, but what did they bring us? McCreary, fergodsake.

 

The answer is pretty obvious...

He hasn't got enough of an amateur experience. He needs to build that experience first.

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr is a 'paper champion' also because he has no amateur record.

 

So all of the top American prospects convieniantly refuse to fight Wilder? Not sure I buy that. Do you have a referance for Hanks publically saying he's outclassed by Wilder? Or of Jenning's turning down a fight offer?

Actually, looking on the web a moment ago, the top story that comes from a google search of Jennings and Wilder is a story about GBP turning down an offer from Jennings!

 

:rofl:rofl

 

Mediocre does not equal bum in my book. Bum equals complete no-hoper, someone with more losses than wins, someone expected to go down for the short end of the money. Sexton is a former Commonwealth belt holder, which might not hold much meaning for you, but it's not the sort of thing a complete failure of a fighter would ever get near to owning. He was also competitive with Chisora on two occasions, even stunning him in their second encounter before getting stopped. He's not a world beater by any means, but he was and still is a quality British domestic level opponent, the equivalent of a Cedric Boswell or Kevin Johnson in the US. Were Wilder to beat either of those guys and smash them in similar fashion (Boswell being the more likely of the two to get stopped) then I'd give him all due props. As it is, 25 fights in, he continues to fight extremely low level opponents and minor name fighters like Beck who are well past their best. He's not learning anything useful by doing that.