Why is Wlad beating all his competition?

Take a wild guess genius maybe its because hes the best heavyweight in the world? vitali will be retired real soon and there wont be a debate

 

Steward did the exact same thing with Lewis. But what people rave about Lewis's longevity seems to be a negative for Wlad.

Steward is having Wlad fight to his strengths, just as he did Lewis.

As for greats Wlad has beaten, i never said he has. Lewis beat 2 greats in Holyfield and Tyson, but i dont rate the Tyson win as it wasnt even the ghost of Tyson.

Tyson beat Holmes in good fashion, but that was the only legend he beat.

As for his last 5 fights that is a mtter of opinion, i liked them (except for the Iggy fight), but the Klitschko's dont need HBO. Listen boxing doesnt die its death once it leaves the US the Klitshckos can make money without the US or HBO.

 

Fair enough on your first point.

Lewis also beat Vitali whose any easy choice for hall of fame selection. As I said before Wlad has never beat anyone worth remembering. Tyson beat Spinks, whose a better version of Bryd with power. Holmes still had many good years after losing to Tyson in 87. He gave Holyfield all he could handle in 91 and beat a prime Ray Mercer.

Wlad has not had an enertaining fight since his fight with Austin over 3 years ago. I watched every Wlad fight since 01, and know what a good performance/fight is. Yes, Wlad can make a ton of money in Germany. He definitely does. Though the rest of the world barely knows him and he's far from a household name.

 

Just a note for those who don't remember/weren't around for the 80's;

-The HW division SUCKED.

 

Well i thought the Thompson and Chagaev fights were good fights.

As for the rest of the world not knowing him, he is massive in Europe and as i said boxing doesnt just rely on the US.

If the Klitschko's were American the yanks would be creaming all over them. But because they are European and most of the competition is European based nowadays the division is suddenly void of competition.

I know your not a Wlad fan from your posts but Wlad is a future HOF fighter and ihe should go down as one the best heavyweights there has been.

And Sheikh makes a good point regarding dominant champions always being accused of having a bad era, and this is another example of that imo.

 

Well said

 

12 million from germany alone and german tv goes out free to every country in europe and then you have his ukraine /russia etc etc numbers on top of that.

not sure about mexico and south america/
far east i doubt as time differences mean they are asleep.

as for american audiences he has been shown enough , but american tv market in terms of numbers and recognition is tiny compared to his potential market in europe.

americans simply do not get the chance to watch boxing in large numbers because of PPV and most of the rest of the worlds population outside of the americas is either asleep or having a lazy sunday when prime time american boxing is on.

 

The Thompson fight was ok, not good. The Chagaev fight was lame to say the least, just a little better than the Iggy fight IMO.

The only places he ever fights is the USA and Germany, and now that HBO doesn't want to pick up his fights. His fan base will probably shrink even more in the states. His competition is mixed. Brewster, Brock, Bryd, Thompson, Austin, Rahman were all American and he fought all of them within the last few years and now Chambers.

Yes, Wlad's a lock for hall of fame induction. He will probably end up in the top 15 heavyweights of all-time, I strongly doubt he will find himself in the top 10. Based on terrible competition, TKO losses to journeymen, and a very weak chin and suspect toughness.

 

i think wladimir is technically a very good boxer, but he's far from great. the division being so weak is his biggest downfall when regarding achievements, but i think he has certain flaws that would be expose quite a few more times if he fought in a more competitive era. it'll be interesting to see how wladimir reacts when he gets caught again with a hard punch, will he once again be all over the place? we'll have to see.

 

Agreed.

 

I never looked at it that way, but it does make sense. I have already heard people from Europe complaining how they seem to show fights at certain times to please the american audience, even though you guys seem to be more diehard fans these days. The UFC seems to have taken alot of the punch away from boxing in the states. With the majority of 20 something yearold guys wanting to spend there saturday watching a UFC PPV opposed to boxing. It's sad, but unfortunately true.

 

2/4 the competition sux so bad that if you go 5 fights undefeated you can get a shot.

And his size is the ultimate difference which is why he won't fight valuev

 

Why wouldn't he have had a 'puncher's chance' against Vitali ?

 

He would, BUT it would be bigger with Wlad who's been KO'd before.