Why is Wlad getting all the criticism?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Feb 24, 2008.


  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    oh please.... You're going a bit overboard with this "Defensive master" and "displays incredibler boxing skills" rhetoric. Boxing does NOT need to be Gatti-Ward to be entertaining.

    I like Wlad and have seen him in some very entertaining fights, but lets not act like last nights performance was a virtuoso boxing exhibition. Wlad basically used a jab the entire night to win. Sure it was damn effective, and he was smart in his game plan. But it was very lackluster of a fight. No real excitement, no drama, nothing. People remeber things like this. The HW division has been very bad for a long time now.

    Wlad, in my opinion, had the ability to put him away much quicker. The little aggression he showed resulted in what should have been a kd. But for the most part, he chose to play it safe. Like i said, good for him, not so good for fans who will be paying him.
     
  2. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well you're right about what the fans missed out on but, then again, wlad is a better boxer (and smarter) than gatti and ward - and even though the spectacle sells, fighters like wlad can't afford to be careless considering his track record, can they?
     
  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    If you're a real boxing fan . . . are you gonna be proud of that kind of performance? :think :roll:

    I'm not a NUTHUGGER . . . that's why I am objective. His performance SUCKS! Face it and live with it . . . stop making excuses.

    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  4. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you're missing the point. read my post above.

    we all like to see exciting fights. but not everyone is floyd or roy and so they need to play it smart to stay at or near the top of the heap.
     
  5. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    No I don't think I am going overboard at all. I've watched Sultan in
    the last year K.O. some huge guy who charged him with basically some
    very fast uppercuts and inside hooks. He has power and handspeed.
    I then saw him outbox and toy with the huge punching Shannon Briggs
    and the old master boxer-puncher Holyfield. Wlad beat the best Sultan
    by completely shutting down his offence. His lateral movement and
    sense of distance is improving each fight and he didn't allow this
    tricky southpaw, former amatuer standout to land a significant punch or even one headpunch over the course of twelve rounds. That, sir,
    is defensive mastery. Wlad can blast you out or outbox you in every
    round. He is a terrific heavyweight champion who is still improving.
    He will be dominant for years to come.
     
  6. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry chief, I have to disagree with you on that one. Mayweather was attacked mercilessly by most fans immediately after the Baldomir fight (which was comparable in terms of excitement). I stick by what I wrote earlier. Every elite fighter who comes out of a fight like that gets ripped by everyone but their fans. Most people only get upset about the criticism when their guy's head is on the block.

    Personally, I give Wlad a ton of credit for utilizing his physical advantages and skills to soften up other fighter for the stoppage, but he was way too tentative last night.
     
  7. Ray Mercer

    Ray Mercer Member Full Member

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    Holyfiled had bigger balls at 12 than Klitschko does now.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I don't think doubling the jab or throwing his right WAAAY more often would have made Wlad careless. I don't know if I saw Wlad's excellent left hook once.

    Once of the few times Wlad waa aggressive was when he put Sultan down on the ropes.
     
  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl :lol: That was the funniest post I read all day, also very true.:good
     
  10. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you were objective you wouldn't be labelling people who disagree with you and you'd be telling us what and why you disagree with it. can you do that?
     
  11. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe you're right on that.

    maybe wlad is over careful.
     
  12. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  13. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Wlad could have KO'd Ibragimov in 6 rounds or so if he'd made the effort to. But he is very conservative now after getting shocked by Sanders and punching himself out against Brewster. I thought he fought way more conservative than necessary but it was apparent that his gameplan for this particular fight was to win without taking any unnecessary risks. As a heavyweight that's not what people want to see, especially when everyone knows how hard Wlad can hit

    He deserves some criticism for being overly cautious. But he has knocked out 44 of his 50 victories so he deserves at least something of a break. Everybody has had their lackluster wins. In there against an awkward southpaw who fought in sporadic spurts but spent much of the fight leaning away trying to avoid the right hand and looking to counter, the way the fight played out Wlad figured the only way he could lose was to be reckless. Boring fight? Sure was, but as long as Wlad doesn't make a habit of this it's not a big deal. His 4 fights before this he delivered a bloody TKO, two highlight reel KO's and a corner stoppage. He can't knock out everyone, as long as this doesn't become a regular occurance then write it off as an aberration
     
  14. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Klitschko always has been a timid boxer and always will be. The only time he gets agressive is when his victims stand in front of him and do nothing.
     
  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    You put on a boring display and you're gonna get criticized. That's the way it is.

    Lewis got criticized for being boring against Tua (who was a big puncher).

    Mayweather got criticized for being dull against Baldomir.

    After Pacquiao fought Barrera a 2nd time, people were saying that Manny lost his desire.

    Ruiz, well, :lol:

    The fact that it was a heavyweight title fight just makes the fighter get criticized even more.