Why is Wlad still fighting Chisora now the Haye fight is off?

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  1. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    I have to disagree, any version of Vitali is a tougher night for Haye.

    Wlad is seriously overrated due to the last few years, i've maintained all along that Haye destroys him at somepoint in the fight.
     
  2. Punisher33

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    Vitali took care of Corrie Sanders after Wlad melted to the canvas and his glass chin crumbled against him just months before. Not to mentioned Vitali being the one to face the great Lennox Lewis, not Wlad.

    Wlad's best wins are over Lamon Brewster, Bryd, and Peter. 1 knocked him out, and 2 out of the 3 had him down for a total of 4 times. Wlad has never been good against aggressive punchers. Haye would of gave him trouble in the ring.
     
  3. Punisher33

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    I agree with the majority of what you said, but I wasn't claiming Vitali is the tougher oppenent to beat at this point in their careers. I was just stating that Vitali is more likely going to be the klitschko that ends up fighting Haye, not Wlad.

    Is it just me, or does it seem like Vitali takes on the more dangerous oppenents? He usually fares better against them as well. He beat Peter worse than Wlad did, obviously Corrie Sanders. It just seems like Wlad's better against non-punching boxers like Chris Bryd.
     
  4. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough. A Prime Vitali would almost certainly smash Haye to pieces, but I don't think he's got the reactions or the mobility to do it now.

    Wlad Klitschko is overrated. His most memorable fights are Sam Peter and Corrie Sanders, maybe the Brewster fights at a push, there's no great defining moment. At least Vitali had that war with Lennox, when did Wlad ever have a fight like that?
     
  5. theboy_racer

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    He never will have one if he keeps going the way he is.
     
  6. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cmon, both of the Klits would still destroy David Haye. They would dispose of him before it reaches the 8th round, unless they choose to punish him for 12 rounds to make him pay for his bull****.




    And if he did and then come late June Haye gets cold feet again and pulls out, where does that leave Wlad? Without a fight and a pay cheque in almost a year.



    Maybe he wanted to beat up a Brit to get more exposure in the UK before Haye. Who knows why, was he a top contender for one of his titles?

    In any case, the Chisora fight was signed before Haye and the July 2 date came up.

    Wlad will not pull out and then start another round of negotiations with another opponent for an April fight. Especially coming off painstaking negotiations with the likes of Povetkin and Haye in recent past only for them to pull out last minute. Use your head. The fight is signed, it's gonna happen. Live with it.
     
  7. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Dont lump them together, i'm certain Haye beats Wlad, Vitali leave sme with doubts.

    Come on now, Haye isnt gonna get cold feet, he never did the first time, Setanta went bust so he pulled out, there is zero chance of Haye pulling out of such a big fight in his last year of boxing.


    Fight him in the UK then :huh

    This part is a bull**** post, you are defending this fight happening at the expense of one of the best HW fights that could be made in years, thats worse than Wlad using it to duck Haye.


    Lets face it, the Klit camp don't want Wlad anywhere near Haye and have been pushing for Vitali instead the whole time, from Boente on Ringside in November to now.
     
  8. FORMIDABLE

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    Not defending it. Just pointing out why Wlad will not be canceling it to find another opponent.

    It wasn't just Wlad Haye ****ed over before. He did the same to his brother soon after. Setanta had nothing to do with that. Haye is untrustworthy and if he was serious about the fight this time, history has proven otherwise. Wlad has a date in April which will be lucrative and he feels he needs it to stay sharp and active. He was not willing to give that up to take Haye on his word that he would show up July 2. I can't hate on him for that. He said he would still fight July 2. Haye is the one who will pull out. He's ****ed either way. Chagaev will beat him if he chooses to fight him instead.
     
  9. p4pBute

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    Why? Money, wlad will make about 7 million plus, he already got the contract written up, no doubt chisora is going to get under a million. With that kind of split, on a easy payday. LET ME ASK YOU WORD? Why not. an as a BIG fan of the brothers, a nice welcomed beat down of a wife beater an **** talkier, just adds to the reasons. i just wish they would push it up to march, i don't want to wait 4 months.

    Get over hayes for a second, besides him, who else could why fight on april 30th......
     
  10. theboy_racer

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    The only bit i will reply to

    The Vitali fight was never signed as far as i know, what happened was they agreed verbally then when the Haye saw the contract it was different, he also saw a good opportunity to get a belt from Valuev(in the process making himself a household name in the UK, and may i add making the fights with the Klits bigger by talking about the brothers as future opponents on all the tv shows), fair enough, his intentions were always going to lead to a Klitschko fight anyway as proven recently

    What Wlad has done here is different, if he cared about his fans or boxing fans in general he would just cancel this fight and go back to it later if it was still appealing to him, just to get the Haye fight done as lets be fair, Haye had agreed to everything including fighting in Germany (no chance of Wlad doing so anywhere else)
     
  11. theboy_racer

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    He can make that money after the Haye fight though, no need for that kind of greed, not a valid reason, not seen one yet.
     
  12. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Haye had no fight date on 30th of April and Wladimir wants not to waste more time in 2011. He wants to stay active like a real Champion!

    Wlad wasted time in 2009 with negotiations with Haye.

    He wants not to wait and wait and wait of Mr. David Haye.

    The fight can be on 2th of july. What Wlad will do in between it is not Haye´s problem.
     
  13. theboy_racer

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    Then why offer the April date to Haye initially

    Active, he can get good sparring and stay active, it will be better than beating up on Chisora.
     
  14. FORMIDABLE

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    You're saying Wlad should give that up. Why can't Haye make the sacrifice and get Chagaev out of the way in March, freeing him up for July 2?
     
  15. FORMIDABLE

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    Haha, you speak like Vitali. Well said