Why is Wladimir Klitschko So Overrated?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Johnson Knows, Mar 24, 2011.


  1. We're splitting hairs, point is that Haye is a more exciting fighter than Wladimir hands down. Can't believe there is argument about that?
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Haye has shown the ability to evade opponents that have the footspeed of a cow, and slip shots that have a postage stamp on them.

    Fair play to him for that.

    There is an absolutely massive difference between the likes of Ruiz and Klitschko.

    Look at how Chris Byrd fared against Wlad - harder to hit, equal pace and a better chin.... lesser power probably. Twatted around the ring twice and didn't win a round on either occasion.
     
  3. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    As do K2.

    anytime between 2003 & 2006
     
  4. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    he has shown the ability to slip and counter fast shots. your going overbaord.
     
  5. I'm not familiar with Chris Byrd's oeuvre. I'll consult the tapes and get back to you. As to your other point about difference in quality; it's a moot one. Calzaghe and Hatton both gave scrappy performances against lesser fighters before stepping up in class.
     
  6. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Wlad would have destroyed shot Barrett, shot Ruiz and shot Harrison in the same or better fashion than Haye did- but he has been busy fighting better opposition (Peter, Chambers, Chagaev). He will add Haye or Adamek to that list soon
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    So Lennox Lewis isn't a quality champion, after Steward was yelling at him at the top of his lungs from round 4 on in the Tyson fight "What the hell are you doing??? Get this mother****er out of here!" :deal:deal:deal

    Whatever a trainer is yelling at his fighter has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of a fighter. Your entire definition is way off.
     
  8. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    Excitement is subjective... I, for one, am able to find both styles enjoyable to watch and the marketing of Haye as an "exciting" fighter is soley to attract the casual follower.
     
  9. Take your 3988 posts, shove them up your ass and shoot yourself. Lewis had wins against much better fighters than WK and showed that he wasn't afraid of going into the trenches.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Not from anybody in the same class as Wlad, or anywhere near.

    Klitschko hits like a truck and is very accurate.

    Byrd was a very good fighter, a similar size to Haye.... perhaps a little smaller but quicker.

    I wouldn't say it's moot at all. Calzaghe and Hatton are bad examples as they fought regularly and produced stellar displays against good opponents in between shall we say average showings.

    Haye has done what he has to do so far, but let's not kid ourselves that a thin decision over Valuev, a late stoppage over old Ruiz and a blowout of a journeyman means that he is in any way a favourite to beat an excellent, dominant HW champion.

    It ain't.

    Where the **** is Fleaman to agree with me?

    :lol:
     
  11. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Bull****

    At the start of 03 Wlad lost to Sanders. His two comeback fights were against 29-2 and 42-4 opponents before a fight with Brewster for the vacant WBO belt. Of course, he lost- then fought Williamson (42-4) and Castillo (18-0-1) before his eliminator with Sam Peter. This brings us up to his rematch with Chris Byrd in 06

    I don't think there was a good time to fight Toney during those years, and certainly not after
     
  12. You got the Ibragimov fight on constant replay?
     
  13. mcguirpa

    mcguirpa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have you never seen the Haye/Valuev fight? Haye ain't saving us from jack ****.

    Against who? Name a single fast fighter haye has faced.

    This is mental, I can't believe haye has so succesfully pulled the wool over the eyes of an entire forum of folk who should know better.

    I wasn't around here when haye fought Enzo, but I bet plenty of people on here gave Enzo a shot, didn't they?
     
  14. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    If somebody found that fight enjoying then let them. I didn't personally but there is no law from preventing others from doing so...
     
  15. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    Honestly, how can you accuse Wlad of ducking Toney, Ruiz and Valuev? :lol:

    Is that really what the Wlad bashing has come to?