Why isn't Bradley more powerful?

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yes, punchers are supposedly born and not made, I know.

    Still there are factors that ought to add up to his shots having more effect than most of them seem to...


    • He sits down on punches, especially when in brawling mode.
    • He was large and strong at light welterweight, and no less so now at welterweight. (if anything the new division suits his frame better)
    • His punching form is textbook. (except when in brawling mode)
    • He throws with genuine venom.
    • He used to exhibit power, in flashes, now and then. He stunned Abregu, who is a big strong welter, in the 2nd, and very nearly dropped him...and dribbled old Casamayor off the canvas repeatedly, and got the respect of Marquez and Pacquiao (older, smaller men - but ATG's)

    So...what is the deal? Why can't he break eggshells? :huh
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because Pacquiao, Marquez, Vargas, Provodnilov, Alexander, Peterson all have very good chins.:deal
     
  3. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If anybody needed a demonstration as to how being ripped to the gills with bulging muscle on your frame doesn't correlate to packing a wallop it's this guy, to be fair Pacquiao rated him as a 6 but then again he was going all out ***** to the wall to knock Pacquiao into oblivion.

    I have read the legs are where power is truly generated, I have actually read a good few hours on this conundrum why some can crack and some cannot regardless of physical appearance, I'll try and recall some excerpts later.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    + Vazquez, Chaves, Abregu, Cherry, & Witter. :nod

    The opponent with the iffiest chin was Holt, and he also went twelve with Garcia.

    Bradley has been matched so goddamn tough.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He doesn't have chicken-legs, though. :huh
     
  6. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My friend, who's going into med school, told me it's about how much muscle fiber a person can access. You can have the biggest muscles in the world, but if your body doesn't access a lot of muscle fiber then it won't make a difference. Rather, some people can have smaller looking muscles but if they can access majority of their muscle fiber then they'll punch harder even with the smaller muscles.

    Idk if they're right, but this is what they said when I asked, lol.
     
  7. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Good but not exceptional puncher and the man doesn't take soft touches, maybe toughest gauntlet of opponents of any active fighter.
     
  8. CST80

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    I left off Abregu, Chaves and Holt because they've been stopped and didn't feel like any pushback. I forgot about the Vazquez match (like I do most Vazquez matches:yep), and remember he dropped Witter in their match we both rewatched (the only two on the thread) a few months ago on here.
     
  9. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Bradley isn't a murderous puncher but let's take a look at his competition since 2008 when he was 20-0-0 (11 KOs) (55%):


    Miguel Vasquez - Never been stopped
    Junior Witter - RTD vs Devon, other than that hasn't been stopped
    Edner Cherry - Never been stopped
    Kendall Holt - Stopped in 2013 past prime vs Lamont
    Lamont Peterson - Stopped once....by Lucas Matthysse
    Luis Abregu - Stopped by Sadam Ali
    Devon Alexander - Never been stopped...has he even been down other than the Lucas fight?
    Joel Cassamayor - He stopped him
    Manny Pacquiao - Stopped once in recent memory despite fighting huge punchers
    Juan Manuel Marquez - never been stopped
    Diego Chaves - Stopped once...by Keith Thurman
    Jessie Vargas - Never been stopped

    Fact is: You aren't gonna get many knockouts when you're fighting this level of competition. His punching power to me is comparable to Floyd's, who also gets no knockouts because of the high-caliber of his competition. Even someone like Pacquiao who is supposedly a murderous puncher doesn't really get many KOs.
     
  10. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I don't think this is necessarily true when it comes to KO power. Guys like Bradley, Floyd etc... aren't physically weak, in fact p4p they're pretty strong, but they just can't punch too well.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

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    I was gonna say - balance a big part of it? :think
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Here's a question, with all the Floyd & Timmy comparisons: if given a free look at, say, Victor Ortiz, could Bradley spark him out with a flush two-piece? :think

    edit: the same version that Mayweather fought, obviously, not the useless half-empty banana-bag that Collazo fought.
     
  13. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Serious question: Are there any examples of fighters who had no power - fixed their technique - and became punchers?
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well apparently Bradley has been irked by all the comments on his lack of might and has been actively working towards correcting it. They mentioned it on the HBO broadcast.

    Vargas' face did get pulped up some, but otherwise there is no indication that his power has improved any.

    Also his problem isn't technique - at least with his punching.

    Balance and foot placement, however, I'd wager, could play roles.
     
  15. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I'd say probably not....Although I think Ortiz quit